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30th Jan '17 10:55:18 AM BatmanKalEl
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** [[TransformersGeneration1 G1]] Starscream: an angry, conniving traitor to Megatron because he wants power for his own sake, or a Decepticon that [[ThePowerOfFriendship just wants attention]]? [[{{Squick}} Very]] ''[[{{Squick}} special]]'' [[{{Squick}} attention]]? [[FoeYay From Megatron]]? The in-universe explanation is that, while Starscream is a lousy traitor, [[ReliableTraitor Megatron keeps him because he is so damn good at his job]].

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** [[TransformersGeneration1 G1]] Starscream: an angry, conniving traitor to Megatron because he wants power for his own sake, or a Decepticon that [[ThePowerOfFriendship just wants attention]]? [[{{Squick}} Very]] ''[[{{Squick}} special]]'' [[{{Squick}} attention]]? [[FoeYay From Megatron]]? The in-universe explanation is that, while Starscream is a lousy traitor, [[ReliableTraitor Megatron keeps him because he is so damn good at his job]].job.
8th Jan '17 5:12:31 PM nombretomado
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** VandalSavage. His HeelFaceTurn in the BadFuture of "Hereafter", having had 30,000 years of solitude to regret his past actions, begs the very real question that Savage's villainy and attempts to take over the world might simply be because there is '''nothing''' left for him to occupy his endless existence with. Since he's been around for 25,000 years already, he's probably been pretty much everywhere, seen pretty much everything, and done pretty much everything ''else'' worth doing.

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** VandalSavage.ComicBook/VandalSavage. His HeelFaceTurn in the BadFuture of "Hereafter", having had 30,000 years of solitude to regret his past actions, begs the very real question that Savage's villainy and attempts to take over the world might simply be because there is '''nothing''' left for him to occupy his endless existence with. Since he's been around for 25,000 years already, he's probably been pretty much everywhere, seen pretty much everything, and done pretty much everything ''else'' worth doing.
30th Dec '16 1:21:52 AM ElectroKraken
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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}'':
** Some viewers dismiss Phillip J. Fry as being mentally retarded, when in fact his particular mental issues are more likely place him on the [[UsefulNotes/{{Autism}} autism spectrum]]. Being a BookDumb SociallyAwkwardHero whose biggest issues are [[ShapedLikeItself ones of communication and selective ignorance]] and is functional enough to have survived ''Futurama'''s [[DeathWorld Death Universe]], Fry's personality is a strong case for UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome. In fact, given the narrative of the show it makes perfect sense; by the 31st century its quite plausible that autism has long been cured in the ''Futurama'' universe, and being the last human on Earth with the condition serves to further justify his FishOutOfTemporalWater status.
** Just how evil is Bender? When he says [[{{Catchphrase}} "Kill all humans!"]] does he truly mean to do so, or is it simply just a BadassBoast feeding into his [[SmallNameBigEgo robot superiority complex]]?



* ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}'':
** Some viewers dismiss Phillip J. Fry as being mentally retarded, when in fact his particular mental issues are more likely place him on the [[UsefulNotes/{{Autism}} autism spectrum]]. Being a BookDumb SociallyAwkwardHero whose biggest issues are [[ShapedLikeItself ones of communication and selective ignorance]] and is functional enough to have survived ''Futurama'''s [[DeathWorld Death Universe]], Fry's personality is a strong case for UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome. In fact, given the narrative of the show it makes perfect sense; by the 31st century its quite plausible that autism has long been cured in the ''Futurama'' universe, and being the last human on Earth with the condition serves to further justify his FishOutOfTemporalWater status.
** Just how evil is Bender? When he says [[{{Catchphrase}} "Kill all humans!"]] does he truly mean to do so, or is it simply just a BadassBoast feeding into his [[SmallNameBigEgo robot superiority complex]]?
25th Dec '16 8:54:07 AM Wkenneth334
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25th Dec '16 8:54:00 AM Wkenneth334
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** Is Mandy a normal (if creepy) girl with bizzare abilities, or a HumanoidAbomination?

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** Is Mandy a normal (if creepy) girl with bizzare abilities, or a HumanoidAbomination?HumanoidAbomination? Or is she ''[[Satan]]'' herself within a girl's body?



** Alternatively, Velma is straight. But she's traveling with a dog, a pothead, a lesbian, and a gay man (the last two acting as [[TheBeard beards]] for each other).

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** *** Alternatively, Velma is straight. But she's traveling with a dog, a pothead, a lesbian, and a gay man (the last two acting as [[TheBeard beards]] for each other).



* ''WesternAnimation/TheSmurfs'':

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSmurfs'':''WesternAnimation/TheSmurfs'' has a long history of this, especially within whenever or not they're actually symbolizing something else:
18th Dec '16 8:06:05 PM HeroGal2347
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** Is Launchpad a bad pilot, a good pilot [[CaptainCrash who can't land straight]], or [[BunnyEarsLawyer a good pilot who has a weird idea of personal style]]? Fans of the show all over the internet (or even ThisVeryWiki) will tell you different things.

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** Is Launchpad a bad pilot, a good pilot [[CaptainCrash who can't land straight]], or [[BunnyEarsLawyer a good pilot who has a weird idea of personal style]]? Fans of the show all over the internet (or even ThisVeryWiki) will tell you different things.things, often depending on whether they're using a Watsonian or Doylist explanation.
4th Dec '16 10:05:43 AM Pichu-kun
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** Is the school bus really magic or is it an advanced form of science? To this it's often quoted that any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic.

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** Is the school bus really magic or is it an advanced form of science? To this this, it's often quoted that any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic.



** Rose is a PosthumousCharacter who we've only seen through the eyes of people who deeply love her and often put her on a pedestal. Whether she truly was as sweet as she seems has been discussed by fans to bits. Some think she secretly had a dark side while others think she had a DarkAndTroubledPast and [[TheAtoner tried to atone]] for it by being a FriendToAllLivingThings. What adds fuel to the fire is the "Pink Diamond Theory", a growing fan theory that believes that [[spoiler: Rose Quartz would actually be Pink Diamond, a former member of the Great Diamond Authority, the leaders of the Homeworld]].

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** Rose is a PosthumousCharacter who we've only seen through the eyes of people who deeply love her and often put her on a pedestal. Whether she truly was as sweet as she seems has been discussed by fans to bits. Some think she secretly had a dark side while others think she had a DarkAndTroubledPast and [[TheAtoner tried to atone]] for it by being a FriendToAllLivingThings. What adds fuel to the fire is the "Pink Diamond Theory", a growing fan theory that believes that [[spoiler: Rose Quartz would actually be Pink Diamond, a former member of the Great Diamond Authority, the leaders of the Homeworld]].
3rd Dec '16 1:17:52 PM Furienna
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** Despite his general {{jerkass}}ery, Archer deeply loves his much put-upon butler [[ButtMonkey Woodhouse]]. Archer's treatment of Woodhouse seems a little conspicuous since, while he's definitely not a nice guy, he normally shows it by being self-centered and completely oblivious to other people's feelings--yet, for some reason, he seems to actively go out of his way to make Woodhouse's life miserable. But since Woodhouse was the only adult in Archer's life for much of his childhood, he's really [[ParentalSubstitute the closest thing that Archer has to a father]]. And with all [[HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood the abuse that Archer took]] from his ''mother'' as a child, maybe he only gives Woodhouse so much grief because it's the only way he knows how to show affection to the parental figures in his life.

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** Despite his general {{jerkass}}ery, Archer deeply loves his much put-upon butler [[ButtMonkey Woodhouse]]. Archer's treatment of Woodhouse seems a little conspicuous since, while he's definitely not a nice guy, he normally shows it by being self-centered and completely oblivious to other people's feelings--yet, feelings - yet, for some reason, he seems to actively go out of his way to make Woodhouse's life miserable. But since Woodhouse was the only adult in Archer's life for much of his childhood, he's really [[ParentalSubstitute the closest thing that Archer has to a father]]. And with all [[HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood the abuse that Archer took]] from his ''mother'' as a child, maybe he only gives Woodhouse so much grief because it's the only way he knows how to show affection to the parental figures in his life.



** Gwen's and Kevin's crushes on each other are just their way of repressing that they're both attracted to Ben. Both attractions are at least partially taboo -- Gwen's because [[KissingCousins Ben's her cousin]], Kevin's because [[HoYay Ben's a guy]] -- so the only solution is to try to force themselves to fall (however [[StrangledBytheRedString improperly]]) for each other. Because they're both lying to themselves and each other, they're both getting their [[MasterOfTheMixedMessage signals returned]], which is encouraging the charade. This explains why Gwen tells Kevin to ask her out without wanting him to, why Kevin tries to make himself appear attracted to Gwen without making a move, and why they both show Ben so much more subtle and genuine affection.

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** Gwen's and Kevin's crushes on each other are just their way of repressing that they're both attracted to Ben. Both attractions are at least partially taboo -- - Gwen's because [[KissingCousins Ben's her cousin]], Kevin's because [[HoYay Ben's a guy]] -- - so the only solution is to try to force themselves to fall (however [[StrangledBytheRedString improperly]]) for each other. Because they're both lying to themselves and each other, they're both getting their [[MasterOfTheMixedMessage signals returned]], which is encouraging the charade. This explains why Gwen tells Kevin to ask her out without wanting him to, why Kevin tries to make himself appear attracted to Gwen without making a move, and why they both show Ben so much more subtle and genuine affection.



*** In the episode "Through a Lens Darkly" Daria considers usage of the contact lenses. Oh, but she can't, because other people might think that she cares about her appearance now. And it's painfully important for her, [[{{Hypocrite}} so the other people think she doesn't care about what other people think]]. In another episode "My Night at Daria's" everything goes to a point where Daria and her boyfriend Tom would have sex, until Daria finds out he have a condom in his wallet, "just in case". Her reaction? [[InsaneTrollLogic Oh, he can think ahead and cares about protection, what a ruthless bastard!]]

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*** In the episode "Through a Lens Darkly" Daria considers usage of the contact lenses. Oh, but she can't, because other people might think that she cares about her appearance now. And it's painfully important for her, [[{{Hypocrite}} so the other people think she doesn't care about what other people think]]. In another episode "My Night at Daria's" everything goes to a point where Daria and her boyfriend Tom would have sex, until Daria finds out he have has a condom in his wallet, "just in case". Her reaction? [[InsaneTrollLogic Oh, he can think ahead and cares about protection, what a ruthless bastard!]]



** Is Muttley secretly on Yankee Doodle Pigeon's side? Is he really a mole, planted to foil the Vulture Squadron's plans from within? Perhaps the US military figured that a dog--albiet an egotistical, snickering glory-hound--would be an ideal spy to bungle Vulture Squadron's counter-intelligence. Notice episodes like "Operation Anvil," where Muttley single-handedly botches the squadron's plan to flatten the pigeon and then remains in the air for the rest of the episode, having a snicker at Dick Dastardly's expense.

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** Is Muttley secretly on Yankee Doodle Pigeon's side? Is he really a mole, planted to foil the Vulture Squadron's plans from within? Perhaps the US military figured that a dog--albiet dog - albeit an egotistical, snickering glory-hound--would glory-hound- would be an ideal spy to bungle Vulture Squadron's counter-intelligence. Notice episodes like "Operation Anvil," where Muttley single-handedly botches the squadron's plan to flatten the pigeon and then remains in the air for the rest of the episode, having a snicker at Dick Dastardly's expense.



** Is his brother a simple case of [[spoiler:JerkAss bully older brother]] or an [[spoiler:abuser]] or [[spoiler: '''worse''']]?

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** Is his brother a simple case of [[spoiler:JerkAss JerkAss bully older brother]] brother or an [[spoiler:abuser]] or [[spoiler: '''worse''']]? abuser or '''worse'''?



** Meg Griffin: Practically everyone in the show and a good number of fans hate her. But does she deserve it? On the one hand, she frequently whines about how "ugly" and "fat" she is, and she's willing to do anything to gain acceptance by her peers and family. To cope with the constant abuse and ridicule that her family dishes out, coupled with the bullying at the hands of Connie, Meg has engaged in a number of questionable and destructive actions. Some of these include threatening to kill herself, doing drugs, throwing up after meals, and cutting herself. However, fans believe that she's just doing it to get attention.

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** Meg Griffin: Practically everyone in the show and a good number of fans hate her. But does she deserve it? On the one hand, she frequently whines about how "ugly" and "fat" she is, and she's willing to do anything to gain acceptance by her peers and family. To cope with the constant abuse and ridicule that her family dishes out, coupled with the bullying at the hands of Connie, Meg has engaged in a number of questionable and destructive actions. Some of these include threatening to kill herself, doing drugs, throwing up after meals, and cutting herself. However, some fans believe that she's just doing it to get attention.



** There's a slight {{aver|tedTrope}}sion of this trope with Peter-- they mention his being retarded ''just enough'' that people who pay attention know this is the cause of most of his {{Jerkass}} behavior. Others who are less avid fans of the show fall into the interpretation that Peter is just a stupid jerk (faulting him for things a person who was mentally handicapped in real life would probably be forgiven for)

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** There's a slight {{aver|tedTrope}}sion of this trope with Peter-- Peter - they mention his being retarded ''just enough'' that people who pay attention know this is the cause of most of his {{Jerkass}} behavior. Others who are less avid fans of the show fall into the interpretation that Peter is just a stupid jerk (faulting him for things a person who was mentally handicapped in real life would probably be forgiven for)



** He could be the ultimate case of ObfuscatingStupidity, tossing the exploding notes back to Quimby as a gag, stumbling through Doctor Claw's schemes so the henchmen keep underestimating him, and generously letting Penny and Brain think they've solved the crimes while he had the whole situation under control (and [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow letting them think they're letting him think]] he solved the crime). Hey, you never know -- he ''did'' save Penny a couple of times even in standard canon interpretation.

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** He could be the ultimate case of ObfuscatingStupidity, tossing the exploding notes back to Quimby as a gag, stumbling through Doctor Claw's schemes so the henchmen keep underestimating him, and generously letting Penny and Brain think they've solved the crimes while he had the whole situation under control (and [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow letting them think they're letting him think]] he solved the crime). Hey, you never know -- - he ''did'' save Penny a couple of times even in standard canon interpretation.



*** Merciless OmnicidalManiac... or just an [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]] little guy who is in it ForScience and affection? Some of the flashbacks show him as being a loving little smeet, latching on to the cold and unfeeling robotic arm for love. The Irken lifestyle would have left him starved for that. Since it glorified conquest and conquerors as worthy of love and admiration, he set out to be one hoping he'll be loved for it. His fiercest rival Dib and he are forced into [[StrangeBedfellows alliances]] so often that they're practically [[FriendlyEnemy friends!]] Also, Zim could kill Dib easily; ''no one'' on that CrapsackWorld would notice Dib's absence or care enough to do anything if they did. It's worth noting that, in the episode GIR goes haywire, he goes out of his way to [[{{Brainwashed}} reprogram]] [[InnocentBystander the cop]] who discovers his base and alienness rather than killing him; by the end, he lets him go -- into an ocean full of sharks, but that part was unintentional. In short, Zim is intellectually into the ''idea'' of destroying and conquering the Earth, but the heart he is not supposed to have is not in it. It's speculation, but if the series had continued after Zim [[SelectiveObliviousness realized]] that the Almighty Tallest hates him, then he would likely switch to the side of humans completely... or start gunning them down actively.
*** Zim is a scientific genius in all things technological and lacks only one important characteristic -- common sense -- because he was given a faulty PAK, [[AllThereInTheScript as shown in the unaired episode "The Trial."]]

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*** Merciless OmnicidalManiac... or just an [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]] little guy who is in it ForScience and affection? Some of the flashbacks show him as being a loving little smeet, latching on to the cold and unfeeling robotic arm for love. The Irken lifestyle would have left him starved for that. Since it glorified conquest and conquerors as worthy of love and admiration, he set out to be one hoping he'll be loved for it. His fiercest rival Dib and he are forced into [[StrangeBedfellows alliances]] so often that they're practically [[FriendlyEnemy friends!]] Also, Zim could kill Dib easily; ''no one'' on that CrapsackWorld would notice Dib's absence or care enough to do anything if they did. It's worth noting that, in the episode GIR goes haywire, he goes out of his way to [[{{Brainwashed}} reprogram]] [[InnocentBystander the cop]] who discovers his base and alienness rather than killing him; by the end, he lets him go -- - into an ocean full of sharks, but that part was unintentional. In short, Zim is intellectually into the ''idea'' of destroying and conquering the Earth, but the heart he is not supposed to have is not in it. It's speculation, but if the series had continued after Zim [[SelectiveObliviousness realized]] that the Almighty Tallest hates him, then he would likely switch to the side of humans completely... or start gunning them down actively.
*** Zim is a scientific genius in all things technological and lacks only one important characteristic -- - common sense -- - because he was given a faulty PAK, [[AllThereInTheScript as shown in the unaired episode "The Trial."]]



** GIR is normally seen as a loveable idiot who is [[CloudCuckooLander too easily distracted]] to be much of a threat to anyone (at least intentionally). But there are moments in the series that suggest that he is less TheDitz and more a [[AxCrazy psychotic overlord]] in waiting. For reference, see "GIR Goes Crazy and Stuff," in which he's left alone and almost takes over the Earth by himself -- and specifically the terrifying moment where we get to see the world through ''his'' eyes: [[spoiler: A bunch of sausages grow hats and canes and say: "Dance with us, Gir. Dance with us ''into oblivion.''"]]

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** GIR is normally seen as a loveable idiot who is [[CloudCuckooLander too easily distracted]] to be much of a threat to anyone (at least intentionally). But there are moments in the series that suggest that he is less TheDitz and more a [[AxCrazy psychotic overlord]] in waiting. For reference, see "GIR Goes Crazy and Stuff," in which he's left alone and almost takes over the Earth by himself -- - and specifically the terrifying moment where we get to see the world through ''his'' eyes: [[spoiler: A bunch of sausages grow hats and canes and say: "Dance with us, Gir. Dance with us ''into oblivion.''"]]



* Perhaps the animated Flash from ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' acts as flippant and flirtatious and downright ''not serious'' as he does because he's fully aware that one day he'll run fast enough that he'll [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence vanish into the Speedforce]]. He ''knows'' that his power will eventually kill him -- though the speedforce seems like a neat place for his kind to end up, and he probably knows that, too. He's keeping the "every moment counts" mentality: no sense in wasting time being angsty -- you might run out of time to laugh and have fun. "Divided We Fall" supports this.

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* Perhaps the animated Flash from ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' acts as flippant and flirtatious and downright ''not serious'' as he does because he's fully aware that one day he'll run fast enough that he'll [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence vanish into the Speedforce]]. He ''knows'' that his power will eventually kill him -- - though the speedforce seems like a neat place for his kind to end up, and he probably knows that, too. He's keeping the "every moment counts" mentality: no sense in wasting time being angsty -- - you might run out of time to laugh and have fun. "Divided We Fall" supports this.



** Another interpretation is that Ms. Frizzle is actually tweaked-out, and is slipping the kids drugs during school time; she introduces a topic, slips some acid into their lunch, so they can go on a field "trip" to learn about subjects firsthand. They always go to the bus because it's a safe place - she has them strap in and she explains to them what is happening as they go through the trip, guiding them. Invariably, something bad does happen, which is their trip taking a turn for the worse before Ms. Frizzle calms them down again.

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** Another interpretation is that Ms. Frizzle is actually tweaked-out, and is slipping the kids drugs during school time; she introduces a topic, slips some acid into their lunch, so they can go on a field "trip" "field trip" to learn about subjects firsthand. They always go to the bus because it's a safe place - she has them strap in and she explains to them what is happening as they go through the trip, guiding them. Invariably, something bad does happen, which is their trip taking a turn for the worse before Ms. Frizzle calms them down again.



** Another possible interpretation: They're a weapon used (possibly unwittingly) to bring the EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt by methods near [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Slaaneshi]]. Music that changes peoples' behaviour, making them crazy enough to find pleasure in horrific pain? Check. Daemon summoning? Check -- the troll could be a 40K Daemon without changing anything. They even [[DealWithTheDevil bargain with the Devil!]] Pickles is so used to drugs that the daemon-possessed Totally Awesome Sweet Alabama Liquid Snake has no effect on him, consistent with Slaanesh-induced sense dulling. The amount of death they cause is comparable with that of unopposed 40K Chaos cults, and the descriptions of how they happen are nearly interchangeable. And so forth and on... They predate Slaanesh by about 15000 years -- but time means nothing to the Warp.

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** Another possible interpretation: They're a weapon used (possibly unwittingly) to bring the EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt by methods near [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Slaaneshi]]. Music that changes peoples' behaviour, making them crazy enough to find pleasure in horrific pain? Check. Daemon summoning? Check -- - the troll could be a 40K Daemon without changing anything. They even [[DealWithTheDevil bargain with the Devil!]] Pickles is so used to drugs that the daemon-possessed Totally Awesome Sweet Alabama Liquid Snake has no effect on him, consistent with Slaanesh-induced sense dulling. The amount of death they cause is comparable with that of unopposed 40K Chaos cults, and the descriptions of how they happen are nearly interchangeable. And so forth and on... They predate Slaanesh by about 15000 years -- - but time means nothing to the Warp.



** In an in-universe example, Amy Rogers stated that "Him Diddle Riddle" would show that Bubbles was actually the smartest of the girls. In the segment where Him has the girls take their SAT tests, Buttercup scores a 25, Blossom a 10, and Bubbles--whose test card was configured to be a flower--scored 1025.

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** In an in-universe example, Amy Rogers stated that "Him Diddle Riddle" would show that Bubbles was actually the smartest of the girls. In the segment where Him has the girls take their SAT tests, Buttercup scores a 25, Blossom a 10, and Bubbles--whose Bubble - whose test card was configured to be a flower--scored flower - scored 1025.



*** This [[http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Eric_Cartman#Character article analyzing]] Cartman's character also notes that he has experienced sexual abuse -- not just once but repeatedly and by different people, including ''his own mother''. Furthermore, the fact that his mother is notorious for being [[ReallyGetsAround a "town bicycle"]] that is frequently drugged out of her mind... [[FridgeHorror what are the chances that the men she has entertained over the years never molested Cartman?]] It may be possible that his repugnant behavior is a combination of factors which includes an absent father, lack of discipline, and just plain relentless childhood abuse that just completely sent him over the edge mentally.

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*** This [[http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Eric_Cartman#Character article analyzing]] Cartman's character also notes that he has experienced sexual abuse -- - not just once but repeatedly and by different people, including ''his own mother''. Furthermore, the fact that his mother is notorious for being [[ReallyGetsAround a "town bicycle"]] that is frequently drugged out of her mind... [[FridgeHorror what are the chances that the men she has entertained over the years never molested Cartman?]] It may be possible that his repugnant behavior is a combination of factors which includes an absent father, lack of discipline, and just plain relentless childhood abuse that just completely sent him over the edge mentally.



** There treatment of each other as a whole is up for debate. Is Rebecca an abusive BadBoss that exploits her ownership of the Sea Duck to force labour from Baloo or is she an ExtremeDoormat that constantly grants employment and a salary for her incompetant JerkAss employee? Similarly is Baloo working for Rebecca solely to buy back "his baby" and bail outta there or is he actually [[PapaWolf a provider and bodyguard for his new surrogate family]] that is merely holding onto said vow out of pride?

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** There Their treatment of each other as a whole is up for debate. Is Rebecca an abusive BadBoss that exploits her ownership of the Sea Duck to force labour from Baloo or is she an ExtremeDoormat that constantly grants employment and a salary for her incompetant JerkAss employee? Similarly is Baloo working for Rebecca solely to buy back "his baby" and bail outta there or is he actually [[PapaWolf a provider and bodyguard for his new surrogate family]] that is merely holding onto said vow out of pride?



** Tankor in ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines''. The writers intended him to have chosen evil of his own free will after having been twisted by his time under Megatron's control. A popular fan theory is that he ''wasn't'' evil -- his actions were caused by input from his awakened spark being filtered through a shell programme. Both interpretations fit what we see on the screen. (Given that, upon his death, he seemed genuinely repentant, the Shell Program makes a lot of sense.)

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** Tankor in ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines''. The writers intended him to have chosen evil of his own free will after having been twisted by his time under Megatron's control. A popular fan theory is that he ''wasn't'' evil -- - his actions were caused by input from his awakened spark being filtered through a shell programme. Both interpretations fit what we see on the screen. (Given that, upon his death, he seemed genuinely repentant, the Shell Program makes a lot of sense.)



* ''WesternAnimation/Wakfu'':

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* ''WesternAnimation/Wakfu'':''WesternAnimation/{{Wakfu}}'':



*** The Specials are no better: First, Grovy decide to abandon his family to fight [[The Heavy Ogrest]] despite his complete inexperience on his newfound [[spoiler: God Powers]] and the fact that Ogrest has defeated the 12 Original Gods who were more experienced and powerful. Yugo then attack his brother for gaining enough power to help his friend(forgetting since he is god, he is..., well, immortal). During the battle, he ends up [[TooDumbToLive Teleporting an Entire mountain on space]] which causes debris to rain down on the World of Twelve. To top it all, it's the new character introduced [[spoiler: Otomai]] who defeat Ogrest and Goultard(Grovy's Master and Demi-God) who saves them. And they still being credited as heroes, [[FakeUltimateHero AGAIN]]

This [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNVMhicUbs video]] pretty much explain it better.

It's interesting to see that Yugo is doing the same mistakes as Nox and Qilby: he is willing to harm is closest relatives for gaining more power(like Nox) and put the entire world at danger for selfish purposes(like Qilby). NotSoDifferent indeed

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*** The Specials are no better: First, Grovy decide to abandon his family to fight [[The Heavy Ogrest]] despite his complete inexperience on his newfound [[spoiler: God Powers]] and the fact that Ogrest has defeated the 12 Original Gods who were more experienced and powerful. Yugo then attack his brother for gaining enough power to help his friend(forgetting since he is god, he is..., well, immortal). During the battle, he ends up [[TooDumbToLive Teleporting an Entire mountain on space]] which causes debris to rain down on the World of Twelve. To top it all, it's the new character introduced [[spoiler: Otomai]] who defeat Ogrest and Goultard(Grovy's Master and Demi-God) who saves them. And they still being credited as heroes, [[FakeUltimateHero AGAIN]]

AGAIN]]. This [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNVMhicUbs video]] pretty much explain it better.

better. It's interesting to see that Yugo is doing the same mistakes as Nox and Qilby: he is willing to harm is closest relatives for gaining more power(like Nox) and put the entire world at danger for selfish purposes(like Qilby). NotSoDifferent indeed
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25th Nov '16 9:00:37 PM nombretomado
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** There is a certain school of thought that says that [[AllJustADream none of what Finn is experiencing is real]], or is at the very least vastly distorted from the true (and likely terrible) reality he lives in. WordOfGod states that Ooo is a [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic world]] recovering from what is referred to as [[WorldWarThree the Mushroom War]]. The possibility exists that what Finn views as adventure might be a great deal more harrowing than his mind allows him to process... throughout the series, there is all kinds of SceneryGorn, with destroyed or submerged buildings, half-buried and wrecked cars, broken televisions, abandoned military equipment, and notably, a river of trash. The opening sequence briefly features a barren field of bombs and bare trees, as well as an arm reaching out, and several of the situations in the show could be read as euphemisms for what is really taking place (such as the Rainicorns attempting to eat Finn, then substituting him for 'soy people' as a euphemism for cannibalism; the Ice King's obsession with kidnapping princesses as a euphemism for slavery; the relationship between Finn and Jake being perhaps a master-slave relationship with Jake the master; the absence of Finn's (and most other characters') parents, the fact that he lives in a tree; possible deformity or mutation represented by Candy People and various other non-human characters, etc). WordOfGod states that this isn't the eventual revelation of the series... while throwing in sounds of Finn screaming and machine-gun-fire over a freeze frame. There are some similarities between ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''ABoyAndHisDog'', as well. Is he suffering from radiation-poisoning and starvation-induced hallucinations, and repainting his life as a coping mechanism, or is it all true with the context of the story? Who knows.

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** There is a certain school of thought that says that [[AllJustADream none of what Finn is experiencing is real]], or is at the very least vastly distorted from the true (and likely terrible) reality he lives in. WordOfGod states that Ooo is a [[AfterTheEnd post-apocalyptic world]] recovering from what is referred to as [[WorldWarThree the Mushroom War]]. The possibility exists that what Finn views as adventure might be a great deal more harrowing than his mind allows him to process... throughout the series, there is all kinds of SceneryGorn, with destroyed or submerged buildings, half-buried and wrecked cars, broken televisions, abandoned military equipment, and notably, a river of trash. The opening sequence briefly features a barren field of bombs and bare trees, as well as an arm reaching out, and several of the situations in the show could be read as euphemisms for what is really taking place (such as the Rainicorns attempting to eat Finn, then substituting him for 'soy people' as a euphemism for cannibalism; the Ice King's obsession with kidnapping princesses as a euphemism for slavery; the relationship between Finn and Jake being perhaps a master-slave relationship with Jake the master; the absence of Finn's (and most other characters') parents, the fact that he lives in a tree; possible deformity or mutation represented by Candy People and various other non-human characters, etc). WordOfGod states that this isn't the eventual revelation of the series... while throwing in sounds of Finn screaming and machine-gun-fire over a freeze frame. There are some similarities between ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''ABoyAndHisDog'', ''Film/ABoyAndHisDog'', as well. Is he suffering from radiation-poisoning and starvation-induced hallucinations, and repainting his life as a coping mechanism, or is it all true with the context of the story? Who knows.
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** Shaggy being a marijuana smoker, based on his being portrayed as constantly hungry, usually shown wearing a dirty t-shirt and a scraggly beard, riding around in a psychedelically painted van, and having conversations with his dog. TheMovie plays with this. An episode of ''HarveyBirdman'' also played with it, lampshading the theory when they get falsely arrested for being pot-smokers. ''Film/JayAndSilentBobStrikeBack'' also plays with this: Jay and Silent Bob are picked up by the ScoobyDoo gang and turn them on to "Doobie Snacks."

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** Shaggy being a marijuana smoker, based on his being portrayed as constantly hungry, usually shown wearing a dirty t-shirt and a scraggly beard, riding around in a psychedelically painted van, and having conversations with his dog. TheMovie plays with this. An episode of ''HarveyBirdman'' ''WesternAnimation/HarveyBirdmanAttorneyAtLaw'' also played with it, lampshading the theory when they get falsely arrested for being pot-smokers. ''Film/JayAndSilentBobStrikeBack'' also plays with this: Jay and Silent Bob are picked up by the ScoobyDoo gang and turn them on to "Doobie Snacks."
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