History AlasPoorVillain / AnimeAndManga

28th Mar '17 7:19:52 AM ReynTime250
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** Another example is the BigBad of Part 5, Diavolo. He spends a good deal of the arc trying to kill his daughter, but he meets his end at the hands of the [[StoryBreakerPower godlike]] Gold Experience Requiem, which forces him to live out an infinite cycle of deaths. The fact that he's running away from a girl not long after kind of drives this home.
21st Mar '17 3:58:34 PM Tempus22
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** Played a bit more straight in ''Resurrection "F"''. [[spoiler: After Frieza is back in hell by the end of the movie and realizes his [[AndIMustScream fate]], observing viewers can actually hear him pathetically sobbing after his BigNo .]]



** You kind of fell sorry for Zarbon in the end, despite being an unrepentant [[TheDragon enforcer for Frieza]]. Unlike his comrades, [[PsychoForHire he's neither cruel]] [[SmugSnake nor egotistical]]-[[PunchClockVillain he's just trying to do his job for Frieza]], [[BadBoss who threatens to kill him if he fails.]] While Vegeta wasn't unjustified in killing him, Zarbon was just doing his job to save his life, and got blasted for it.
12th Mar '17 1:43:17 PM Gamermaster
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** Naoko Akagi also fits here as well. She [[WouldHurtAChild murders the first Rei]] in a moment of insanity because she called her a 'hag' and revealed that she's imitating what [[Jerkass Gendo]] calls her and that he was just using her, and then has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment before [[DrivenToSuicide jumping off the platform she's standing on.]]

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** Naoko Akagi also fits here as well. She [[WouldHurtAChild murders the first Rei]] in a moment of insanity because she called her a 'hag' and revealed that she's imitating what [[Jerkass [[{{Jerkass}} Gendo]] calls her and that he was just using her, and then has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment before [[DrivenToSuicide jumping off the platform she's standing on.]]
12th Mar '17 1:41:14 PM Gamermaster
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* [[ManipulativeBastard Gendo]] [[ParentalAbandonment Ikari]] from ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. It's revealed in ''End of Evangelion'' that he's trying to trigger [TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third]] [[AssimilationPlot Impact]] to try [[LoveMakesYouEvil and bring his dead wife back]]. Rei, his surrogate daughter, [[AnArmAndALeg tears off his arm]] and enacts Third Impact on her own, choosing Shinji over him; he [[NotSoStoic shouts after her in a panic]], but is unable to do anything. He mournfully admits that he treated Shinji so badly because he was afraid of him and left because he was afraid of being a poor father (ironically making him an even worse father in the process), showing that he's essentially a [[ShadowArchetype twisted version of his own son]]. He is then [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe bitten in half]] by Unit 01; as everyone else who died as part of Third Impact saw an apparition of the person they love most in the world embracing them, what he experiences - his wife, who he caused Third Impact to bring back, questioning his actions and then him being horribly killed by the mecha that is her and piloted by his son - suggests that he truly believed that's what he deserved. His remorse is shown even more by his last words, also an example of this trope: "Forgive me, Shinji."

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* [[ManipulativeBastard Gendo]] [[ParentalAbandonment Ikari]] from ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. It's revealed in ''End of Evangelion'' that he's trying to trigger [TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third]] [[AssimilationPlot Impact]] to try [[LoveMakesYouEvil and bring his dead wife back]]. Rei, his surrogate daughter, [[AnArmAndALeg tears off his arm]] and enacts Third Impact on her own, choosing Shinji over him; he [[NotSoStoic shouts after her in a panic]], but is unable to do anything. He mournfully admits that he treated Shinji so badly because he was afraid of him and left because he was afraid of being a poor father (ironically making him an even worse father in the process), showing that he's essentially a [[ShadowArchetype twisted version of his own son]]. He is then [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe bitten in half]] by Unit 01; as everyone else who died as part of Third Impact saw an apparition of the person they love most in the world embracing them, what he experiences - his wife, who he caused Third Impact to bring back, questioning his actions and then him being horribly killed by the mecha that is her and piloted by his son - suggests that he truly believed that's what he deserved. His remorse is shown even more by his last words, also an example of this trope: "Forgive me, Shinji."
27th Jan '17 3:50:04 AM flodoris
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* Nearly ''any'' major death in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}''. Kishimoto loves emotional death scenes with flashbacks, thus villains and good guys get equal treatment, even when they don't have a case of RedemptionEqualsDeath.
** Kimimaro and Sasori. ''And Danzo''. And Kisame.

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* Nearly ''any'' major death in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}''. Kishimoto loves emotional death scenes with flashbacks, thus villains and good guys get equal treatment, even when they don't have a case of RedemptionEqualsDeath.
** Kimimaro
RedemptionEqualsDeath. Examples include: Zabuza and Sasori. ''And Danzo''. And Kisame.Haku, Kimimaro, Sasori, Danzo, Kisame, Nagato, Kabuto (though he is not died) and Tobi.



** [[spoiler:''Madara'' of all people. For all his power and arrogance, he's ultimately the biggest loser of them all, as his plans end with his death while Hashirama's "Will of Fire" endured and will continue to endure long after he [Hashirama] passed on. The only comfort he has is that in spite of everything that transpired between them, Hashirama (briefly revived by the Edo Tensei), perhaps the only person to have ever truly empathize with him besides his brother Izuna, still considers them friends.]]

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** [[spoiler:''Madara'' Even ''Madara'' of all people. For all his power and arrogance, he's ultimately the biggest loser of them all, as his plans end with his death while Hashirama's "Will of Fire" endured and will continue to endure long after he [Hashirama] Hashirama passed on. The only comfort he has is that in spite of everything that transpired between them, Hashirama (briefly revived by the Edo Tensei), perhaps the only person to have ever truly empathize with him besides his brother Izuna, still considers them friends.]]
24th Jan '17 7:30:36 PM Nicoaln
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* In ''Manga/ThePromisedNeverland'', Sister Krone may have been [[ObviouslyEvil an obvious]] [[TheStarscream climber]] intent on stealing the spot of Isabella, but when she realises that she's been beat, does whatever she can to help the kids escape, admires the beautiful sky, and says that she hopes they survive - because they are the ones who can save the CrapsackWorld they live in.
9th Jan '17 2:56:28 PM Tropetastic1995
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** Played a bit more straight in ''Resurrection "F"''. [[spoiler: After Frieza is back in hell by the end of the movie and realizes his [[AndIMustScream fate]], observing viewers can actually hear him pathetically sobbing after his BigNo .]]
2nd Jan '17 5:26:41 AM Imjustme
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** There's Lantern in ''Jack'', who's actually [[spoiler: school girl Minami]]. While an unrepentant serial killer, they're also a WellIntentionedExtremist, genuinely believing that they're ''helping'' society by killing those who disrupt it's order. Even [[TykeBomb Arima]] and Taishi feel sorry for them after their MotiveRant, revealing that [[spoiler: she really did [[IJustWantToBeNormal just want to be a normal girl]] and complete her exams, but her HorrorHunger combined with her [[DrivenByEnvy resentment]] at those who she viewed as not appreciating the normal lives they got to have, ended up making that impossible]].
31st Dec '16 10:46:35 AM HeSupplanted
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* [[ManipulativeBastard Gendo]] [[ParentalAbandonment Ikari]] from ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. It's revealed in ''End of Evangelion'' that he's trying to trigger [TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third]] [[AssimilationPlot Impact]] to try [[LoveMakesYouEvil and bring his dead wife back]]. Rei, his surrogate daughter, [[AnArmAndALeg tears off his arm]] and enacts Third Impact on her own, choosing Shinji over him; he [[NotSoStoic shouts after her in a panic]], but is unable to do anything. He mournfully admits that he treated Shinji so badly because he was afraid of him and left because he was afraid of being a poor father (ironically making him an even worse father in the process), showing that he's essentially a [[ShadowArchetype twisted version of his own son]]. He is then [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe bitten in half]] by Unit 01; as everyone else who died as part of Third Impact saw an apparition of the person they love most in the world embracing them, what he experiences - his wife, who he caused Third Impact to bring back, questioning his actions and then being horribly killed by the mecha that is her and piloted by his son - suggests that he truly believed that's what he deserved. His remorse is shown even more by his last words, also an example of this trope: "Forgive me, Shinji."

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* [[ManipulativeBastard Gendo]] [[ParentalAbandonment Ikari]] from ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. It's revealed in ''End of Evangelion'' that he's trying to trigger [TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third]] [[AssimilationPlot Impact]] to try [[LoveMakesYouEvil and bring his dead wife back]]. Rei, his surrogate daughter, [[AnArmAndALeg tears off his arm]] and enacts Third Impact on her own, choosing Shinji over him; he [[NotSoStoic shouts after her in a panic]], but is unable to do anything. He mournfully admits that he treated Shinji so badly because he was afraid of him and left because he was afraid of being a poor father (ironically making him an even worse father in the process), showing that he's essentially a [[ShadowArchetype twisted version of his own son]]. He is then [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe bitten in half]] by Unit 01; as everyone else who died as part of Third Impact saw an apparition of the person they love most in the world embracing them, what he experiences - his wife, who he caused Third Impact to bring back, questioning his actions and then him being horribly killed by the mecha that is her and piloted by his son - suggests that he truly believed that's what he deserved. His remorse is shown even more by his last words, also an example of this trope: "Forgive me, Shinji."
31st Dec '16 10:45:57 AM HeSupplanted
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* [[ManipulativeBastard Gendo]] [[ParentalAbandonment Ikari]] from ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. It's revealed in ''End of Evangelion'' that he's trying to trigger [TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third]] [[AssimilationPlot Impact]] to try [[LoveMakesYouEvil and bring his dead wife back]]. Rei, his surrogate daughter, tears off his arm and enacts Third Impact on her own, choosing Shinji (Gendo's son) over him; he [[NotSoStoic shouts after her in a panic]], but is unable to do anything. He mournfully admits that he treated Shinji so badly because he was afraid of him and left because he was afraid of being a poor father (ironically making him an even worse father in the process), showing that he's essentially a [[ShadowArchetype twisted version of his own son]]. He is then [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe bitten in half]] by Unit 01; as everyone else who died as part of Third Impact saw an apparition of the person they love most in the world embracing them, what he experiences - his wife, who he caused Third Impact to bring back, questioning his actions and then being horribly killed by the mecha that is her and piloted by his son - suggests that he truly believed that's what he deserved. His remorse is shown even more by his last words, also an example of this trope: "Forgive me, Shinji."

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* [[ManipulativeBastard Gendo]] [[ParentalAbandonment Ikari]] from ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. It's revealed in ''End of Evangelion'' that he's trying to trigger [TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third]] [[AssimilationPlot Impact]] to try [[LoveMakesYouEvil and bring his dead wife back]]. Rei, his surrogate daughter, [[AnArmAndALeg tears off his arm arm]] and enacts Third Impact on her own, choosing Shinji (Gendo's son) over him; he [[NotSoStoic shouts after her in a panic]], but is unable to do anything. He mournfully admits that he treated Shinji so badly because he was afraid of him and left because he was afraid of being a poor father (ironically making him an even worse father in the process), showing that he's essentially a [[ShadowArchetype twisted version of his own son]]. He is then [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe bitten in half]] by Unit 01; as everyone else who died as part of Third Impact saw an apparition of the person they love most in the world embracing them, what he experiences - his wife, who he caused Third Impact to bring back, questioning his actions and then being horribly killed by the mecha that is her and piloted by his son - suggests that he truly believed that's what he deserved. His remorse is shown even more by his last words, also an example of this trope: "Forgive me, Shinji."
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