History AdaptationalVillainy / ComicBooks

20th Jun '18 3:44:19 PM Anicomicgeek
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** ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'':


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** John Wraith is a [[RaceLift white]] [[AdaptationSpeciesChange human]] who's in charge of the Weapon X project and frequently abuses his captives, which included teenagers.
** [[spoiler:Moira [=MacTaggert=] made a drug with Wolverine's blood and sided with the Brotherhood.]]
** ComicBook/{{Quicksilver}} and ComicBook/ScarletWitch were willing servants of Magneto and hadn't abandoned their views of mutant supremacy, only joining the Ultimates for protection from Magneto. [[spoiler:Quicksilver also arranged the death of Magneto and sold other mutants into slavery.]]
16th Jun '18 4:39:56 PM TheMountainKing
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** ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen has quite a few characters who are HeroOfAnotherStory presented in a decidedly darker light in the League books, with SocietyMarchesOn, ValuesDissonance and GenreDeconstruction strongly applied to these works.
*** In general, spies, whether good or bad, are regarded as [[GreyAndGrayMorality inherently shifty characters]] with M, the leader of M16 and the creator of the league, revealed in ''Volume 1'' to be [[spoiler:James Moriarty]] and his successor, the nominally good Mycroft Holmes shown to be if possible, more ruthless. ''The Black Dossier'' takes this even further with a very negative portrayal of Cold War era spy fiction, M16 pulling TheCoup and installing Big Brother from ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' and being led by [[spoiler:[[Film/TheThirdMan Harry Lime]]]] with characters like [[Series/TheAvengers Emma Peel]] shown as little more than an UnwittingPawn and Franchise/JamesBond a misogynist scumbag [[spoiler:who is a traitor to England and working for the CIA and becomes a KarmaHoudini VillainWithGoodPublicity.]]

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** ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' has quite a few characters who are HeroOfAnotherStory presented in a decidedly darker light than in the League books, their original works, with SocietyMarchesOn, ValuesDissonance ValuesDissonance, and GenreDeconstruction strongly applied to these works.
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*** In general, spies, whether good or bad, are regarded as [[GreyAndGrayMorality inherently shifty characters]] with M, the leader of M16 and the creator of the league, revealed in ''Volume 1'' to be [[spoiler:James Moriarty]] and his successor, the nominally good Mycroft Holmes shown to be if possible, more ruthless. ''The Black Dossier'' takes this even further with a very negative portrayal of Cold War era spy fiction, M16 pulling TheCoup and installing Big Brother from ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' and being led by [[spoiler:[[Film/TheThirdMan Harry Lime]]]] with characters like [[Series/TheAvengers Emma Peel]] shown as little more than an UnwittingPawn and Franchise/JamesBond a misogynist scumbag [[spoiler:who is a traitor to England and working for the CIA and becomes a KarmaHoudini VillainWithGoodPublicity.]]



** ComicBook/{{Providence}} averts this in general for most of the Lovecraft characters in the story. It makes an exception however for [[spoiler:Ronald Pitman, the CaptainErsatz of Pickman from ''Pickman's Model''. Nothing in the original story suggests as Moore's comic does, that Pitman is a SerialKiller and MadArtist]].

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** ComicBook/{{Providence}} ''ComicBook/{{Providence}}'' averts this in general for most of the Lovecraft characters in the story. It makes an exception however for [[spoiler:Ronald Pitman, the CaptainErsatz of Pickman from ''Pickman's Model''. Nothing in the original story suggests as Moore's comic does, that Pitman is a SerialKiller and MadArtist]].
16th Jun '18 8:25:58 AM Anicomicgeek
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** In the mainstream Marvel universe, the Hulk is generally an innocent character, only attacking when provoked. Here, he's Bruce Banner's id run amok, murders people, and is a cannibal.
** [[spoiler: Black Widow is basically a reversal of her original counterpart, who started off as an evil Russian spy before reforming and becoming an Avenger. Here, she's introduced as a seemingly heroic defender of justice, but turns out to be a murderous traitor acting as TheMole for the Liberators]].

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** ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'':
*** ComicBook/NickFury is self-serving and corrupt, willing to violate the Constitution and throw people under the bus to maintain his power and for his own means.
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In the mainstream Marvel universe, the Hulk is generally an innocent character, only attacking when provoked. Here, he's Bruce Banner's id run amok, murders people, and is a cannibal.
** *** [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]] in, a NeverLiveItDown moment, struck [[ComicBook/TheWasp Janet van Dyne]] in the middle of a breakdown and deeply regrets it. Here, in a bad case of CharacterExaggeration, he frequently beat her and [[spoiler:after being tossed out of the Ultimates, he eventually helped Black Widow and the Liberators.]]
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[[spoiler: Black Widow is basically a reversal of her original counterpart, who started off as an evil Russian spy before reforming and becoming an Avenger. Here, she's introduced as a seemingly heroic defender of justice, but turns out to be a murderous traitor acting as TheMole for the Liberators]].



** ComicBook/NickFury is self-serving and corrupt, willing to violate the Constitution and throw people under the bus to maintain his power.
16th Jun '18 8:17:23 AM Anicomicgeek
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** In the mainstream Marvel universe, the Hulk is generally an innocent character, only attacking when provoked. Here, he's Bruce Banner's id run amok, murders people, and is a cannibal.


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** ComicBook/NickFury is self-serving and corrupt, willing to violate the Constitution and throw people under the bus to maintain his power.
** ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, rather than an AntiHero who follows a strict code, starts out as an amoral mercenary who literally only joins the team so he can sleep with Jean Grey, and murders people for personal convenience rather than in self-defence or a sense of justice. [[HeelFaceTurn He gets better]].
16th Jun '18 8:07:50 AM Anicomicgeek
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*** While Nathaniel Richards, father of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's Reed Richards, is a HeroWithAnFInGood and a MysteriousParent, [[AdaptationalNameChange Gary]] Richards of ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' was a former JerkJock and abusive to Reed.

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*** While Nathaniel Richards, father of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's Reed Richards, is a HeroWithAnFInGood and a MysteriousParent, [[AdaptationalNameChange Gary]] Richards of ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' was a former JerkJock and is abusive to Reed.Reed, [[AdaptationalDumbass frowning on Reed's intelligence]].
12th Jun '18 3:53:23 AM Anicomicgeek
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*** While Nathaniel Richards, father of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's Reeed Richards, has a HeroWithAnFInGood and a MysteriousParent, [[AdaptationalNameChange Gary]] Richards of ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' was a former JerkJock and abusive to Reed.

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*** While Nathaniel Richards, father of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's Reeed Reed Richards, has is a HeroWithAnFInGood and a MysteriousParent, [[AdaptationalNameChange Gary]] Richards of ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' was a former JerkJock and abusive to Reed.
12th Jun '18 3:52:49 AM Anicomicgeek
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*** While Nathaniel Richards, father of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's Reeed Richards, did some things to prevent a BadFuture, [[AdaptationalNameChange Gary]] Richards of ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' was abusive to Reed.

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*** While Nathaniel Richards, father of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's Reeed Richards, did some things to prevent has a BadFuture, HeroWithAnFInGood and a MysteriousParent, [[AdaptationalNameChange Gary]] Richards of ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' was a former JerkJock and abusive to Reed.
12th Jun '18 3:30:25 AM Anicomicgeek
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*** While Nathaniel Richards, father of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's Reeed Richards, did some things to prevent a BadFuture, [[AdaptationalNameChange Gary]] Richards of ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' was abusive to Reed.
4th Jun '18 5:39:40 AM GrigorII
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*** While Nathaniel Richards, father of the ComicBook/FantasticFour's Reeed Richards, did some things to prevent a BadFuture, [[AdaptationalNameChange Gary]] Richards of ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' was abusive to Reed.



** This also happens to the [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk the Hulk]], [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]], several Franchise/XMen, and [[spoiler: the Comicbook/BlackWidow]], who become more villainous characters in the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Universe than their original incarnations were.
*** [[spoiler: Black Widow is basically a reversal of her original counterpart, who started off as an evil Russian spy before reforming and becoming an Avenger. Here, she's introduced as a seemingly heroic defender of justice, but turns out to be a murderous traitor acting as TheMole for the Liberators]].

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** This also happens to the [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk the Hulk]], [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]], several Franchise/XMen, and [[spoiler: the Comicbook/BlackWidow]], who become more villainous characters in the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Universe than their original incarnations were.
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[[spoiler: Black Widow is basically a reversal of her original counterpart, who started off as an evil Russian spy before reforming and becoming an Avenger. Here, she's introduced as a seemingly heroic defender of justice, but turns out to be a murderous traitor acting as TheMole for the Liberators]].



** ComicBook/{{Magneto}} went from a morally complex, ambiguous figure to an outright genocidal mutant supremacist, who [[AbusiveParents abuses his son physically and emotionally]] and is a blatantly hinted cannibal.
** In the original comics, ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} is an AntiVillain mercenary who often leans towards AntiHero status. His Ultimate counterpart is a [[FantasticRacism mutant-hating]] {{Cyborg}} psychopath, who leads the villainous Reavers in [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting]] mutants on live television.
** ComicBook/NickFury is self-serving and corrupt, willing to violate the Constitution and throw people under the bus to maintain his power.
** ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, rather than an AntiHero who follows a strict code, starts out as an amoral mercenary who literally only joins the team so he can sleep with Jean Grey, and murders people for personal convenience rather than in self-defence or a sense of justice. [[HeelFaceTurn He gets better]].
27th Apr '18 10:51:02 PM Anicomicgeek
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* The ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'' version of Mantis retroactively counts as this, as while it was reflective of her status in ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'' as someone who decided to join Kang, ''Crossing''!Mantis was revealed to be a Space Phantom and not the real Mantis in ''ComicBook/AvengersForever''.

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* The ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'' version of Mantis retroactively counts as this, as while it was reflective of her status in ''ComicBook/TheCrossing'' as someone who decided to join Kang, ''Crossing''!Mantis was revealed to be a Space Phantom and not the real Mantis in ''ComicBook/AvengersForever''.''ComicBook/AvengersForever''.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderMen II'' picks up where the original left in regards to Peter finding out about ComicBook/MilesMorales's counterpart in the mainline universe--a friend and former ally of ComicBook/TheKingpin back before Fisk did his coup against Don Rigoletto.
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