History AdaptationalVillainy / AnimeAndManga

9th Feb '18 9:33:36 AM Raptorslash
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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', and even more so in ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'', Gladion is an AntiVillain at worst, and never actually threatens the main characters. While he works as an enforcer for Team Skull, he warns the player about them and does things counter to Skull's purposes, such as asking the player to protect Nebby. He sincerely cares about his Pokemon, especially his partner Type: Null, and the main reason he wants to grow stronger is so he can more effectively protect [[his sister Lillie.]] Once he learns Team Skull kidnapped [[spoiler: Lillie]], he ''immediately'' defects. In the manga, he is considerably more ruthless - he orders Type: Null to directly attack Kiawe and has a more villainous goal of capturing the Island Guardians, and displays a sexist streak (especially towards Plumeria) that wasn't present in the games.

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* ** In ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', and even more so in ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'', Gladion is an AntiVillain at worst, and never actually threatens the main characters. While he works as an enforcer for Team Skull, he warns the player about them and does things counter to Skull's purposes, such as asking the player to protect Nebby. He sincerely cares about his Pokemon, especially his partner Type: Null, and the main reason he wants to grow stronger is so he can more effectively protect [[his [[spoiler: his sister Lillie.]] Once he learns Team Skull kidnapped [[spoiler: Lillie]], he ''immediately'' defects. In the manga, he is considerably more ruthless - he orders Type: Null to directly attack Kiawe and has a more villainous goal of capturing the Island Guardians, and displays a sexist streak (especially towards Plumeria) that wasn't present in the games.
9th Feb '18 9:33:00 AM Raptorslash
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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', and even more so in ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'', Gladion is an AntiVillain at worst, and never actually threatens the main characters. While he works as an enforcer for Team Skull, he warns the player about them and does things counter to Skull's purposes, such as asking the player to protect Nebby. He sincerely cares about his Pokemon, especially his partner Type: Null, and the main reason he wants to grow stronger is so he can more effectively protect [[his sister Lillie.]] Once he learns Team Skull kidnapped [[spoiler: Lillie]], he ''immediately'' defects. In the manga, he is considerably more ruthless - he orders Type: Null to directly attack Kiawe and has a more villainous goal of capturing the Island Guardians, and displays a sexist streak (especially towards Plumeria) that wasn't present in the games.
7th Feb '18 6:43:38 PM nanakiro
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* ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' does this to Mukuro Ikusaba. LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero and Dangan Ronpa If ended up having her be portrayed more sympathetic and she ended up performing a HeelFaceTurn in the latter work. Here, this show seems to downplay her sympathetic qualities and instead focuses a lot on the thoroughly reprehensible actions she committed as an accomplice in her sister's schemes. It is extremely noteworthy that she stated that Makoto Naegi (aka her crush and the person who was responsible for her HeelFaceTurn in Dangan Ronpa If) is a loser that is better off dead.

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* ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' does this to Mukuro Ikusaba. LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero ''LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero'' and Dangan ''Dangan Ronpa If ended up having IF'' had her be portrayed more sympathetic sympathetically and she ended up performing a HeelFaceTurn in the latter work. Here, this show seems to downplay her sympathetic qualities and instead focuses a lot on the thoroughly reprehensible actions she committed as an accomplice in her sister's schemes. It is extremely noteworthy that she stated that Makoto Naegi (aka her crush and the person who was responsible for her HeelFaceTurn in Dangan Ronpa If) ''IF'') is a loser that is better off dead.
4th Feb '18 2:43:15 PM Raptorslash
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** Some of the Gym Leaders and Elite Four members. While most of them (with the exception of Giovanni and Malva) are good guys in the games -- Lance and Lorelei even helping out the player character at key points -- Lt. Surge, Koga, Sabrina, Agatha, Bruno, Lorelei, Lance, Karen, Will and [[spoiler: Pryce]] are villains. [[spoiler:To be fair, though, Pryce is a more sympathetic AntiVillain, Lance is a WellIntentionedExtremist, and most of the other characters listed [[HeelFaceTurn reform]] later on, with the exception of Agatha.]]

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** Some of the Gym Leaders and Elite Four members. While most of them (with the exception of Giovanni and Malva) are good guys in the games -- Lance and Lorelei even helping out the player character at key points -- Lt. Surge, Koga, Sabrina, Agatha, Bruno, Lorelei, Lance, Karen, Will and [[spoiler: Pryce]] are villains. [[spoiler:To be fair, though, Pryce is a more sympathetic AntiVillain, AntiVillain while Lance is a WellIntentionedExtremist, WellIntentionedExtremist. They and and most of the other characters listed [[HeelFaceTurn reform]] later on, with the exception of Agatha.]]
31st Jan '18 9:09:35 AM patriciovalencia117
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* ''Anime/{{Godzilla Planet of the Monsters}}'': Whereas most incarnations of Godzilla are anti-heroes or {{Tragic Monster}}s, this Godzilla is the most vile and malevolent incarnation since [[Film/GodzillaMothraKingGhidorahGiantMonstersAllOutAttack GMK Godzilla]]. In the flashback scenes, Godzilla intentionally killed humans and destroyed evacuation shuttles full of refugees even when he isn't attacked or provoked. His only saving grave [[spoiler: [[PapaWolf is that he genuinely cares about his son]]]].
13th Dec '17 4:48:48 PM nombretomado
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** Although this is more of a case of Adaptational [[AntiHero Anti-Heroism]], Rei Hino[=/=]Sailor Mars is hit with this in the 90s anime. Rei seems more abusive towards her friends (especially to Usagi) in the anime than in the manga, especially in the first season. It's even worse in the DiC dub where Rei (or Raye as she is called in that dub) makes no qualms about wanting to kick Serena out of the Sailor Scouts and take over as the leader.

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** Although this is more of a case of Adaptational [[AntiHero Anti-Heroism]], Rei Hino[=/=]Sailor Mars is hit with this in the 90s anime. Rei seems more abusive towards her friends (especially to Usagi) in the anime than in the manga, especially in the first season. It's even worse in the DiC [=DiC=] dub where Rei (or Raye as she is called in that dub) makes no qualms about wanting to kick Serena out of the Sailor Scouts and take over as the leader.
26th Nov '17 4:36:28 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Team Flare in the games are largely an IneffectualSympatheticVillain team in the vein of early Team Rocket, [[spoiler:with the exception of BigBad Lysandre]]. In the ''XY'' arc, Team Flare ends up having their more malicious elements increased and their campier ones suppressed, [[spoiler:to the point of burning Vaniville Town to the ground in order to obtain X's Key Stone and Kanghaskhanite]].

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** Team Flare in the games are largely an IneffectualSympatheticVillain team in the vein of early Team Rocket, team, [[spoiler:with the exception of BigBad Lysandre]]. In the ''XY'' arc, Team Flare ends up having their more malicious elements increased and their campier ones suppressed, [[spoiler:to the point of burning Vaniville Town to the ground in order to obtain X's Key Stone and Kanghaskhanite]].
26th Nov '17 4:35:55 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Faba, in ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', wasn't a good guy to begin with. He's a SmugSnake who believes himself to be more important than he actually is, [[ChildHater hates children]] (which he states upon losing), refuses to fight Team Skull to save a Slowpoke, and acts very condescending towards both Wicke and the player's character[[spoiler:, but ultimately pulls a HeelFaceTurn in the original games, at least (though he sells out the Aether Foundation in favor of joining Team Rainbow Rocket in ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'')]]. Here, he's even worse, even going so far as to [[spoiler:try to abduct Lillie and try to erase her memory for no reason other than to save his reputation]].

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** Faba, in ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', wasn't a good guy to begin with. He's a SmugSnake who believes himself to be more important than he actually is, [[ChildHater hates children]] (which he states upon losing), refuses to fight Team Skull to save a Slowpoke, and acts very condescending towards both Wicke and the player's character[[spoiler:, character, [[spoiler: but ultimately pulls a HeelFaceTurn in (in the original games, at least (though least; he sells out the Aether Foundation in favor of joining Team Rainbow Rocket in ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'')]]. Here, he's even worse, even going so far as to [[spoiler:try to abduct Lillie and try to erase her memory for no reason other than to save his reputation]].reputation. Afterwards, he is the one who almost kills Nebby in order to open an Ultra Wormhole, whereas in the games it's Lusamine who does this]].
26th Nov '17 4:34:41 PM Isaac_Heller
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** In ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', N is a very sympathetic AntiVillain with good intentions. He eventually makes a HeelFaceTurn in the sequel games, helping the player against Ghetsis, his much more evil adoptive father. However, N has fewer redeeming qualities here and manages to convince White's Tepig to leave her. His goal also seems to be more like Ghetsis' goal than in the games.

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** In ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', N is a very sympathetic AntiVillain with good intentions. He eventually makes a HeelFaceTurn in the sequel games, helping the player against Ghetsis, his much more evil adoptive father. However, N has fewer redeeming qualities here and here, manages to convince White's Tepig to leave her. His goal also seems her, and delivers [[KickTheDog cruel]] [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech "the reason you suck" speeches]] to be more like Ghetsis' goal than in Professor Juniper and Black. By the games.end of the arc, however, he still does see the error of his ways, and it's hinted that much of his darker characteristics were thanks to Ghetsis [[spoiler: through use of Colress' Beeheeyem.]]
26th Nov '17 4:26:39 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Ocasionally used with the Pokémon themselves (particularly either [[PoisonIsEvil Poison]] or [[DarkIsEvil Dark]] types). In the games and the anime itself, even Pokémon seen working for the antagonists generally aren't actually evil, [[PunchClockVillain just taking orders from their trainers]], and aggressive wild Pokémon are only animals obeying their instincts. While genuinely evil Pokémon do exist in the anime (such as a group of Malamar in ''XY'' and an unusually mean Togepi in ''Diamond and Pearl''), they are a minority and not representative of their species as a whole.

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** Ocasionally used with the Pokémon themselves (particularly either [[PoisonIsEvil Poison]] or [[DarkIsEvil Dark]] types). In the games and the anime itself, even Pokémon seen working for the antagonists generally aren't actually evil, [[PunchClockVillain just taking orders from their trainers]], and aggressive wild Pokémon are only animals obeying their instincts. While genuinely evil Pokémon do exist in the anime (such as a group of Malamar in ''XY'' ''XY'', a group of Litwick in ''Black and White'', and an unusually mean Togepi in ''Diamond and Pearl''), they are a minority and not representative of their species as a whole.
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