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Rogue 7: That newspaper you're referring to wouldn't happen to be the Newark Star-Ledger, would it? Because there was definitely an article about the UST between those two.

Document N: This one?


Jonn: Shouldn't all the discussion about the Clone Wars themselves on Star Wars The Clone Wars be on the Star Wars page?


Peteman: When I hear the droids sign when they cracked open the pods, they were singing "J-ME crack pods and I don't care, J-ME crack pods and I don't care, J-ME crack pods and I don't caaare" or "Cracking open pods, Cracking open pods, We shall come rejoicing, Cracking open pods!"


Peteman: Re: Informed Ability: before being destroyed, didn't the Malevolence destroy multiple fleets on screen before getting taken out? They also killed most of the clones in Rookies, and drove off Yoda's delivery ship? They've won plenty of battles.


Crowley:
Ho Yay: Grievous' medical droid certainly seems devoted, doesn't he?
After reading that line, this troper remembered this comic. She's starting to think that Grievous is the equivalent of Big Boss to droids..
priopraxis: What boring invincible hero ? The good guys keep losing to the Republic in every episode.


KJMackley: I removed Fan Disservice for two reasons, primarily being that it wasn't accurate to the trope. Both Fan Disservice and Erection Rejection are about attempts at Fanservice that fail, with Disservice being intended to fail (with the exception of Fetish Fuel) and Rejection being unintended. Ahsoka may not be well-clothed, but she really isn't heavily sexualized in the show. The other reason is that people like to shove in tropes they consider negative as a Take That! to the show, and just because you label a trope to it doesn't excuse anyone from the Complaining Policy.


UnclGhost: As for the Retcon entry, the forumification was a bit much, but there should at least be a mention of the timeline reorganization and that there are outright retcons, rather than just "additions," as evidenced by Ryloth, Nautolan eyelids, etc.


Lady Gaga4ever:I am not seeing how Padme a Faux Action Girl. If she can kick butt, then it means she lives up to her reputation.

UnclGhost: Probably because she gets kidnapped in every appearance so far.

Lady Gaga4ever:Couldn't that be justified since she's a senator. She only tries to seem useful than to seat back and watch.

UnclGhost: The Faux Action Girl page defines it as "an Action Girl with very low standards you would never hold a male hero to." I think that fits here. Imagine if it was about Bail Organa constantly trying to go on missions, only to be captured every time, despite occasional success.


KJMackley: I took out Informed Ability because the Force itself is described as Unlimited Potential, but those who use the Force are subject to be mere mortals. As well, besides Star Wars Clone Wars use of the Force has never been portrayed inconsistently between the movies and television. They receive visions (and "Bad Feelings about this") but can't control when/where they receive them. They can move objects and even though Yoda says size doesn't matter even he admits he has limitations. And ultimately even George Lucas has admitted that such things are subject to the Rule of Drama. This trope is someone imprinting what they expect of something and not Informed Ability.
  • Informed Ability: The Jedi and the Force, at least when they need to use the Force for anything other than moving things around. In "Shadow of Malevolence", Anakin and Ahsoka did not even consider trying to find Plo Koon—whom Ahsoka knew quite well—by sensing him through the Force. They did remember that handy ability in "Children of the Force", but a couple of episodes later Anakin and Luminara were staring forlornly at the droid factory rubble, seemingly unable to do anything but guess if their Padawans were alive or dead.
    • Luminara did say that she sensed them drifting away, but was apparently unable to get anything like why they are "drifting away," where they are now, or what could be done to save them. The Force was never big on specific details, even in the original trilogy or Expanded Universe, but it would often at least give you a "that way" nudge.

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