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Is this page really necessary? I mean, it basically says Poland is There.

I myself am Polish and I have no idea what should be included in this description.

Silent Hunter: It describes a bit of the history, explains that it's not Russia or Germany and that is not Commie Land any longer. Perhaps something on Polish culture would be handy.

Abu Dhabi: Well, this page contains rather obvious material to anyone with a clue about world history and geography, but I think having a clue isn't necessarily the prevailing characteristic of the tubes' demographics.

A wiki page about Poland and it's made of 98% history and 2% trivia. Figures.

Seanette: Does anyone have a replacement graphic for the flag in which the whole thing is visible? At least with my browser settings, the upper half just disappears.

You sly, sly troll: The actual colours of Polish flag were source of biggest and longest knifefight/flamewar on Polish Wikipedia (it's supposed to be white and read, except it isn't) with pages upon pages of color conversion disputes and such. Looks like they ended up with using a photograph of flag instead of graphic.

Erpegis: I've moved a rant about Putin here. Too flamebaity.

Somone: * The preceding statement is questionable. Because the matteris certainly not archeology yet, it is subject to political bias. Just today, russian former president, [[Vladimir Putin|Vlad the Bad]], was guest at 70th anniversary of 2ww, that took place in my city, between around 4am (symbolic, rather than actual, beginning of war). This man compares [[Katyń]], a mass murder of polish officers by soviet troops, to the high death rate of soviet prisoners of war in polish Po W camps during 1920 polish-bolshevik war; according to him, poles and russians should get over the mutual faults. However, he does not mention that, firstly, both happened on polish soil (Poland have actively invaded and defeated Russia last time before the aforementioned abolishment of polish state at theedge of XVIII century), and secondly, number of polish Po W deceased in soviet camps was equal to number of soviet ones, with the total number of polish Po W in soviet custody significantly ower (around 80k to 50k). Sorry, if you don't know where am i heading with this. The problem with polish-ukrainian relations is, we now have separate countries, and current policy is forgetting and forgiving, in both countries (or so i believe). Nevertheless, ukrainian's still celebrate Simon Petura (conincidentaly, i share his first name) - but this man is responsible for crime of genocide against poles at Kresy (east edge of country, that CCCP took after ww2 in exchange for the less but richerand more industrialized land in the west). So it might be still too eary to work out a common stand. But a hint from polish patriot - at the time of 1920's, Pilsudski was leading Poland, and he had the idea of returning to the Commonwealth. It's my own, yet firm, belief, that given more luck and/or resources, polish troops would push the reds more to the east in an attempt to create multinational, sklavian nation.

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