Archived Discussion

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Unknown Troper: I didn't think this example really qualified as a Patrick Stewart Speech, since he's not really admiring a trait in humans, more so their capacity for containing blood.

"Spike: We like to talk big, vampires do. "I'm going to destroy the world." It's just tough guy talk. Struttin' around with your friends over a pint of blood. The truth is, I like this world. You've got... dog racing, Manchester United, and you've got people. Billions of people walking around like Happy Meals with legs. It's all right here. But then someone comes along with a vision. With a real... passion for destruction. Angel could pull it off. Goodbye, Piccadilly. Farewell, Leicester bloody Square. You know what I'm saying? "

Earnest: Should we add it to the "Stock Phrases" markup? It's a speech rather than a phrase, and the Aesop varies... but still.

Devil's Advocate: Hmm, the speech itself isn't a stock phrase, but a few of the sentences within the speech may be, as well as the "why do you care about them?" which leads to the speech. I'd say add the specific sentences to Other Stock Phrases if you want.

Robin Goodfellow: Took out

(This editor thinks humanity is pretty cool, too, but c'mon, Jean-Luc, "how like a god" is overstating things just a bit.)

He is quoting Shakespeare, after all.

Devil's Advocate: But as Picard himself notes, Shakespeare is being ironic when he says it, and Picard is not. While the words may be from Shakespeare, the meaning is Picard's, and he gets the blame if that meaning is over the top.

Noname: Do Boromir's speeches from Lord of the Rings count?

Eakin: Is 1958 really old enough to invoke The Oldest Ones in the Book?

Big T: Read the requirements on that page, and tell me what you think. The answer is Yes.
Gemmifer: Am I the only one who thinks the "Humans are" tropes that compare humans to other races are kind of pointless? We are alone, no species will ever talk to us. What do we nee Aesops about it?
Cliché: Rename discussion here. (07/26/09)
  • UPDATE: Currently the new name is planned to be The Heart Of Man Speech. Three days from 07/27/09 it will be changed if no one objects.

Anomaly: Removed the following. I mean, c'mon - the Original Troper even said it wasn't worthy of inclusion, so why even put it here?
  • It is generally agreed among Star Trek: Enterprise fans that Captain Archer's infamous "gazelle" speech is NOT worthy of inclusion in this trope.