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Kilyle: Thanks to something or other on the Nightmare Fuel or Paranoia Fuel pages, I got directed to a strip called Kit and Kay Boodle (or something like that), the content of which surprised me (well, on multiple levels, but let's not go into that). Apparently it's a porn strip that abides by strictly monogamous couples... aside from some old lady who wants people to nurse on her.

Anyway, I wondered (without wanting to actually look around to find out) how many porn strips invert My Girl Is a Slut to something like "We have sex constantly and for the tiniest excuses (e.g., while gardening), and we're perfectly okay with other people having sex in our vicinity - in fact, that's how we enjoy time with our friends - but we wouldn't even think about having sex with other people, because we're totally monogamous." It seems like an odd position to take, and, given that this was a furry comic, now I'm wondering if this is the position taken by furries in general (abundant monogamous sex), or just this specific strip.

Duckluck: Furries tend to have a lot of issues with sex and identity (same as the rest of us, really), that cause them to develop quirks, neuroses, and fetishes that frequently have nothing to do with being a Furry. I'd say this is probably one of those things.

On a completely unrelated note, I'm going to have to call bullshit on the first paragraph of the description. Pop psychology, especially pop sex psychology is full of dubious half-truths and wild guesses. Unless there's actual evidence for the assertion that everyone wants to cheat, but no one wants to be cheated on, I say we get rid of the whole mess.

J Chance: Given how pervasive both temptation and jealousy are as, well, fictional tropes, I'd say that there's something to it. That said, while porn Hand Waves everything, not just jealousy, swinging and especially poly, in fiction and especially reality, treat it more as a problem to overcome. (Also, the distinction between the two—swinging is sex only, poly allows multiple emotional relationships—belongs somewhere, whether it's on this page, or Useful Notes on Nonmonogamy.)

Nornagest: Temptation and jealousy undeniably exist (I don't think they're properly universal, but they're damn close), but they can both be explained by mechanisms other than the one the trope provides. I'm not a shrink or a sociologist and can't give you a better model off the top of my head, but sweeping generalizations like the one in the lead paragraph reek of pop psychology — especially the virgin/whore bit. Let's kill it.

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