This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Mr Onimusha - Question: Is there a trope to accurately describe the way Stark is in Civil War? If not, there should be. For those who don't know, Civil War Tony Stark is a LEGENDARY dick; among the many actions he authorised or committed, he supported the government's pro superhero-registration act (good) and went on to spearhead a war against those who were against the act (dickish), going as far as creating a robotic clone of Thor, Norse God of Thunder, to aid the pro-registration side (ultimate dick). I don't think Magnificent Bastard would quite cover it, but it might.
- Shale: Do we have a trope for the Heroic Jerk Ass? Not the Heroic Sociopath, but somebody who doesn't let his (genuine!) dedication to protecting the innocent stop him from being a complete jerk in his personal life.
- Wasn't Well-Intentioned Extremist intended to cover this kind of thing?
Cassius335: To be fair, he's beginning to realise this, including a scene in one Iron Man comic where he tells a comitte essentially "Captain America was afraid of exactly this sort of thing happening. Prove him wrong." It doesn't work.
Chuckg: Edited out the references to the Bush administration in particular. Its sufficient to point out that an author's soapbox re: US politics is in progress without getting that specific about it.
ComputerSherpa: Removed the line about the movie having an Idiot Plot ("see Fridge Logic section above"). The Fridge Logic section has to be longer than that before you get to call it an Idiot Plot.
Meta4: Regarding all the Continuity Nods in the film: since they're nods to events that haven't happened yet in the movie-verse, shouldn't they be filed under Mythology Gag or Foreshadowing / Chekhov's Gun?
Meta4: Removed because I don't see how it's a Mythology Gag at all:
- Mythology Gag: Black Sabbath's classic song Iron Man, which has a tangential connection to the character at best, is used prominently in trailers and in the film's final scene.
Ununnilium: IMHO, we should make a Film / Iron Man entry.
Meta4: I agree.
Ununnilium: Done: Iron Man
Some tropes common to Iron Man that I can't think of the names of...
- His armor and especially his helmet not only add no girth to his body but frequently (recent adaptations) make him -slimmer- (not as true in the 60s)
- 'interior view' shots of his helmet always make it look ridiculously spacious and roomy, with a ton of screens he couldn't possibly read when they're millimeters away from his eyes..
- and then... what does that say about scouters? There has to be a 'you can't read that it's too close to your eyes' trope..
