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Kimiko Muffin: Um ... it mentions gold-jacketed bullets "for you-know-who". I don't know who. Uh, little help?

Ununnilium: The Cybermen, cyborgs with gold as their Kryptonite. Doesn't really matter in context, IMHO. `.`

Looney Toons: Damn, you beat me to it. And I was going to say "Voldemort". But I'm just in a goofy mood today. <grin>

Darmok: I believe there have been several instances of Highlander immortals using nefarious means to win (or at least cheat in) fights, including: hitting the other guy with your car, setting some vicious dogs on him, and yes, having two friends with machine guns fill him full of holes.

Ununnilium: Indeed; editing.

Seiraryu: Indeed, bullets *can* kill Immortals. It's not a Rule (that would be 'Cannot Fight On Holy Ground'). It's more of an honor thing.

Nobodymuch: The reason why even the most vile Immortals don't break the holy ground rule is because doing it nukes the area they are in. According to dialogue the last time it happened was Pompeii.

Peteman: In the Borg's defence, in the only incident where they were actually shot [that I can recall in Canon], they were technically being attacked with an unconventional force field effect rather than actual bullets (and they were only being shot for all of 3 seconds, so they might have adapted if there were more Borg).

(athcnv): In First Contact, the phasers are set on a "rotating frequency". Not sure why they can't go fully random (e.g.: infinity modulator weapon in Elite Force - although it wouldn't be fair to have an enemy you couldn't possibly kill in a computer game).

Also, I remember in Dune (book and the later computer games) people could wear personal shields that could stop any bullet. Unfortunately, if a LASER hit the shield, it resulted in an nuclear explosion (both at the shield and the gun that fired the laser).

Also, I remember a personal shield that stopped high velocity bullets, but not low velocity knives or spears. Can't remember where I saw it, though.

GentlemensDame883: Could we use this image of Chunk from the Goonies weathering Captain Picard's Tommygun as the page image?

Haven: Took this natterfest out. The original example maybe counts, so you can reinsert that with some heavy rewording if you really feel the need, but I don't think "can only be shot in the head" really counts.

  • The Complete Zombie Survival Guide makes a damn good attempt at justifying this; in the book's reality, The Virus that turns the living into the undead does not need oxygen or blood, and so anything other than a headshot or decapitation is pointless.
    • Not really. Moving around requires constant energy and chemical reactions. Without oxygen or blood, there is no explanation as to how such an organism could survive.
      • You're under the assumption that the Zombies in that fiction utilize oxygen as an energy source or blood as it's carrier. In the Zombie Survival Guide, Max Brooks clearly states that solanum changes the human brain into a new organ. This organ's energy requirements could be supplemented in a different fashion.
      • A virus forming new organs from old ones is still an example of Artistic License - Biology anyway. Oxygen is not the body's energy source, but it is absolutely essential for chemical reactions in the body (virtually all organic chemicals are made up of Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen), and all organisms need it and other chemicals to operate the chemical reactions they need to operate, which must be moved around the body somehow. Producing movement through muscles requires a constant influx of chemicals and produces stacks of waste chemicals. It doesn't matter what the chemicals are- every chemical reaction in existence has these issues. If the waste is not being removed and replaced with new raw materials, the reactions would shut down within minutes. Any organism of this size would need a bloodstream or something similar to bring in chemicals and glucose (the main energy source in the body) round the clock. A human sized organism simply could not function without these body systems. And such systems are, for obvious reasons, vulnerable to physical damage.