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Morgan Wick: As a subtrope of For Want Of A Nail, this is basically "the consequences are always negative". How does that not warrant merging with the For Want Of A Nail entry?

Lale:

  • This is s not necessarily For Want Of A Nail, where lacking the smallest, seemingly insignificant element ruins everything. You could be adding an element to the past that changes everything for the worst.
  • This strictly involves Time Travel.

Earnest: So... any particular reason the pic is gone? (Later) Ok, if there are no objections then I'm putting it back.

Earnest: [[Later]] Why do people dislike the Bart-butterfly so much that they cut it without explanation twice now? It was cut again by Admiral_Kelly and been replaced by a new image (though that was someone unrelated). So, for the tropers consideration, keep the new image or switch back to this one?

"No one ever suspects the butterfly."
blackcat putting this here because it is a big ol' spoiler for the movie Frequency.

, and he succeeds in saving him from the fire that he died in (among other things). Unfortunately, the father's presence where he should have been absent indirectly saves the life of a serial killer, and things only get worse from there. However, instead of the characters learning a lesson about messing up history, they continue to use the radio to try to track down the killer, and by the end of it, all the characters (save, perhaps, the new victims of the serial killer) wind up with lives much better than where they started.

  • Better still, it's extremely unlikely that said serial killer was able to claim more victims, since by the end he's had his true identity discovered by the police and had his right hand blown off with a shotgun

blackcat Putting this here because I don't really think it is an example of the trope.

  • If you think about it, in James Cameron's "Titanic", when Rose had a chance to get on a boat, she jumped off. Then, she took up all of a really huge door, there by causing Jack to die of cold. If she had taken the boat, Jack may have survived on that big floating door. (Although, that could just be me...)
blackcat moving this here because I think it is natter but maybe not.
  • Yeah, because the USA made all the difference in WW 2! (That episode never made any sense to me. The USA entered WW 2 much later than Europe and the Dominions, and wasn't as important as present-day Americans believe)

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