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Do non-ironic/cynical breakup songs really belong here? The lyrics I found gooogling "kelly clarkson since you've been gone" didn't seem particularly "anti-love", although I didn't look closely. —Document N
Tzintzuntzan: I agree that straightforward angry breakup songs shouldn't be on this list. They're actually given as an example of what Weird Al parodies. Compare Tom Lehrer's "When You Are Old and Grey" with Alanis Morrissette's "You Oughta Now." One is an Anti-Love Song, and one isn't.
Jisu: That should do it.
Ununnilium: Honestly, the song from The Wedding Singer sounds like a standard breakup song.
"The Wedding Singer" song is clearly a parody of a break-up song. Try the You Tube link just added.
Ununnilium: ...it still seems like a fairly standard break-up song. `` But I can see that it was supposed to be a parody, at least, so I'll leave it.
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: Cut this and put it here for now. "Jenny (867-5309)" really is a sincere love song, but it might fall under the "weird context" clause, since the narrator has never met Jenny in person. It's only The '80s, after all, between pen-pals and internet relationships...
- "Jenny, I've got your number/ I'm going to make you mine/ Jenny, don't change your number/ 867-5309..."
- Similarly, the infamous one-hit wonder "867-5309 Jenny" by Tommy Tutone is widely taken to be a love song. Most people clearly never listened all the way through, or they would have noticed lyrics like I got your number on the wall — for a good time, call.
- And then others, like the above troper, don't notice the rest of the lyrics, or they would've noticed that it really is a love song.
Khitty Hawk: Removed the spoiler tags around the name "Portal" as there is no reason for them to be there and any reader would have to hilight them to figure out what the heck the entry is talking about anyway.
Jack Slack: Does "Marie" by Randy Newman count in the 'unusual context' category? It's a true love song in that the person singing it really does love the beautiful woman he's singing it to. But he's a drunk, cowardly, self-proclaimed "weak and lazy" person who "hurts her so". It's a song about desperately loving someone even when you know you're not good enough for them (which is why you love them) and that if they had any sense they'd kick you to the curb... and they probably will.
Document N: Sounds usual to me.
Thinks Too Much: Do songs that are dead serious and discouraging love (or high school romance) fit here?...Yeah, I'm thinking of Taylor Swift's "Fifteen".
Memorize Pi: I started sorting this page, but it's going to be a huge project. If you think anything in the wrong category, please move it over. (Some of the pop is almost rock, some of the rock is almost metal, I wasn't sure where to put Mexican folk songs)
