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This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.


Removed this:

  • Take That! (a parody of famed paleontologist Jack Horner is killed horribly by the Mommy T.rex in The Lost World.)

...because according to The Other Wiki, this guy was actually a parody of Horner's rival, Robert T. Bakker. I'm not really sure if the intent was vindictive enough to be considered a proper Take That!, so I just excised the whole entry.


Can we please break the page down into sections for the entire series, and then into film specific ones?
Hamtatam: Do the kids from the first movie deserve the Idiot Ball for the use of their flashlight just as T-Rex walks by them?

Majin Gojira: I'd say "No" as panic does cause people to do stupid things, and she had no knowledge that the light would attract the animal until it was too late.

Hamtatam: Yeah, makes sense. OK.


McJeff: Removed the following...

  • Actually, after the movie was produced, a larger breed of the Deinonychus family was discovered, the Utahraptor, proving Spielberg correct if only by accident. Also the Dilophosaurus was 10 feet tall and did't have a frill. (The venom is purely speculative, but we can't say for sure that it didn't have it because that sort of thing doesn't tend to leave fossil traces.)
    • The raptors in the books and movies are actually Deinonychus, but at the time the book was written they were referred to as Velociraptors. It was scientifically correct at the time the story took place to call them that, though the movie did make them a bit larger than they should have been. But not nearly as large as the ten foot tall Utahraptor. The Dilophosaurus was a juvenile, this is stated in the book, and they say that they weren't aware it had the frill until they saw it live. Fossils hadn't preserved it (just like the venom.) They also added feathers to their raptors in the third movie, showing them only on the males (a pretty clever retcon.)
    • If the frill was present, it would leave marks (specifically sites of attachment in the neck and jaw bones), so it was one big artistic license...
    • First off, the book specifies the dromaeosaur species as Velociraptor mongoliensis. (If Deinonychus were lumped into Velociraptor as per Gregory S. Paul, the species would be V. antirrhopus.) Second, the discovery of a dromaeosaur much larger than Deinonychus (Utahraptor) does not vindicate the novel's or film's "raptors"; the only way this could possibly happen is if a six-foot-tall Velociraptor species turned up in Mongolia or something. Third, if they ever make a fourth film, they're going to wish they had made a less feeble effort to feather the raptors in #3, given the more recent discovery of quill knobs on a Velociraptor arm bone. Last, the novel only specifies that the dilophosaur attacking Nedry is 10 feet tall (hence an adult).

Reason being it's the kind of back-and-forth argument natter that we're encouraged to avoid. A lot of it can be moved into Science Marches On I think.

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