This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Blueshifted the filmmakers who had pages, though some don't yet. Started by wikiwording all of them and then changing back the ones that didn't blue-shift, so if you want to keep track of who has a page and maybe go about making ones for those who need 'em, the list is:
- One camp is convinced that he is "the only genius in the whole fucking business" - a better filmmaker than George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, Ridley Scott, Quentin Tarantino, Fritz Lang, Alfred Hitchcock, Akira Kurosawa, John Huston, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola, Orson Welles, Billy Wilder, Franco Zeffirelli, Robert Wiene, Sergio Leone, Stanley Kubrick, Lars von Trier, Roman Polanski, Pier Paolo Pasolini, FW Murnau, Frank Capra, and Ingmar Bergman combined, and that Video Gamers Are Morons. This camp consists of Uwe Boll.
I feel the need to point out that the story about Uwe Boll ducking Seanbaby because he's got boxing training is pretty likely a self-serving lie by Seanbaby. Boll did fight an amateur boxer in the original challenge (Chance Minter). As much as everyone loves to hate Boll, is it really fair to print as fact a dubious assertion by an internet pundit? That also puts the lie to the stated fact he "tried to avoid people with actual boxing experience", which was apparently started by Lowtax (who claimed Boll didn't fight Minter, which was untrue).
Phartman: I'm inclined to believe Seanbaby on this one; Uwe carefully picked his battles because it was his retarded PR scheme in the first place, and a 6'4 internet comedian who studies in Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu -not amateur boxing- was likely to make him look like an even bigger moron than he already is.
At any rate, Mr. Boll, this isn't the venue for your bullshit, now is it?
Mark: Say what you will about Boll, but having watched both Bloodrayne and the Dungeon siege film, I have to say they were both fun and entertaining movies.
Fast Eddie: Persistent rumors that this entry was written by Ewe Boll cannot be confirmed at his time.
Mark Lungo: Why were the quotes moved from the beginning of the article to the end? I think the beginning is where they belong. I'd switch them back, but I don't want to start an Edit War.
MRL: I don't know why either, but as the beginning is where they are on all other pages, I've moved them up there.
Lord Seth: I switched the order of the two "camps" listed at the start and rewrote them slightly, because I think it was more funny this way.
fleb: I switched them back, and put the quotes back at the bottom, because I found it funnier that way when I read this page and first learned who Uwe Boll was. Your Mileage May Vary, apparently?
arromdee: According to The Other Wiki, closing the loophole doesn't affect Uwe Boll.
Basically, Germany gives a massive break to films that are made by German companies.
The loophole is that the definition of "German companies" is lax, so American companies could set things up so that on paper the owner is a German company, but the film is really still controlled by the American company.
Uwe Boll's company is German for real, so he's not affected by closing this loophole. He started the Far Cry movie after the loophole was closed.
Kilyle: Um, just saw Dungeon Siege the movie (In the Name of the King). Never having played the game, found the movie pretty enjoyable. Saw the name Uwe Boll at the end and went "H U H ????" So is the problem with this movie primarily that it was not especially connected to the concept from the game? ETA: After discussion with friends, have realized that my dad and I enjoyed the movie primarily because we were critiquing it the whole time, a la MST 3 K. In that light it's hilarious. Objection retracted.
Mr Death: Out of nothing but pure morbid curiosity, does anyone know where the four screens showing Postal are? I don't have the slightest intention of seeing it, but I'm curious.
Jamoche I caught part of Blood Rayne on Sci-Fi and found it better than expected. But then, for the first 10 minutes I thought it was an episode of Flash Gordon, so "better" is a relative term. (Seriously. No dark color filters, no Flash, and the leather-clad action babe had more than one facial expression.)
Inkblot: Uwe Boll's recent movies aren't that awful. In The Name of the King was just bad, as opposed to mind-boggling atrocious, and Postal and Seed actually have fans. Maybe he's So Bad, It's Good as opposed to So Bad Its Horrible.
Ethereal Mutation: From what I gather, it really depends on particular films. House of the Dead seems So Bad, It's Good, Alone in the Dark and Blood Rayne seem So Bad Its Horrible, In the Name of the King just seems like standard crap, and Postal seems like the jury is out. I haven't actually seen any of these movies, though.
Inkblot: Far Cry and 1968 Tunnel Rats have good reviews on IMDB, but because they're so obscure it's hard to find out what people thought about them.
Austin: Removed this justifying edit
This troper disagrees that Mr Boll is the worst director in film history (though he comes pretty darned close). Whereas it is quite clear that he love his art and at least tries his best (and fails miserably) to make a watchable movie, he at least isn't Seltzer And Friedberg, the two monsters responsible for Date Movie, Epic Movie, Meet The Spartans and the oh-so-appropriately named Disaster Movie. I made the terminal mistake of watching Date Movie, and found watching House of The Dead to be an entertaining remedy for the excruciating pain suffered as a result. The trailers-alone of Epic Movie onwards were so nightmarishly-horrible that quite a few tropers (myself included) and millions of non-tropers were wisely turned off seeing another Friedberg and Seltzer garbage ever again.
In addition to being a justifying edit and rambling too long, T Vtropes articles work best when written based on consensus, and almost everyone thinks Uwe is a dirtbag and his movies suck.
MacPhisto: This Troper has mixed opinions regarding Herr Boll. Like the above "Austin" I believe that the title of "worst director in film history" belongs to Seltzer & Friedberg. Those two deserve to be put to death for their crimes against humanity. House of the Dead, Blood Rayne, and In the Name of the King all have a "So Bad, It's Good" feel to them, mostly due to Boll having somehow hoodwinked the likes Jurgen Prochnow, Ben Kingsley, Michael Madsen, Burt Reynolds, Ray Liotta, Ron Perlman, and John Rhys-Davies into appearing in them.
On the other hand, I find it insulting to the memory of Ed Wood to be compared to Fuher Boll. While Boll is an egomaniacal Jerkass who believes he is infallible, Wood was just having fun doing what he loved. Wood may have been a crossdresser who was responsible for some of the most laughably bad contributions to celluloid, but he was also a patriotic American, a decorated war hero who treated women as equals, and who gave Bela Lugosi work when no-one else would.
I'm not sure, but shouldn't this article try to be a little more... neutral? It seems a little swayed, for some reason.
