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First of all, the description on the original article indicates that both \
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First of all, the description on the original article indicates that both \\\"no counterargument given\\\" and \\\"counterargument completely destroyed\\\" are valid for Can\\\'tArgueWithElves. Taran Zhu falls under the former.
\\\'\\\'Strangely, the humans are not allowed to take offense, demand politeness, defend themselves or — heaven forbid — mock the elves right back.\\\'\\\'
Secondly, there are legitimate reasons for the war. First and foremost being the Cataclysm wrecking Azeroth and placing a strain on resources. Then there\\\'s the Forsaken\\\'s plague, which was developed by experimenting on Alliance citizens while the two factions were at peace (it\\\'s use at Wrathgate was unintentional on Sylvanas\\\' part, but it\\\'s development was not). And yes, there is also the fact that Garrosh thinks the Horde should rule the world. But what\\\'s the Alliance supposed to do about that? Let him wipe them out because fighting is wrong? The Pandaren themselves have fought wars for survival against the Mantid and Mogu. How are those wars any different, except that Taran Zhu tells us they are because reasons?
Thirdly, Taran Zhu is a hypocrite. He claims the outsiders are the ones destroying Pandaria, but he allows his own hatred of the outsiders to make HIM vulnerable to Sha possession. You might think that\\\'s the point of the character -to show that no one is above the danger of the Sha- except that Zhu is neither humbled by the experience nor called out on it by anyone else, and as soon as he\\\'s saved -by the Horde/Alliance- goes right back to blaming everything on them. It is also his insistence on giving Garrosh a fair trial that leads to his escape and creation of the Iron Horde. Yeah, those peaceful ways really turned out great there.
Taran Zhu is a character who is very obviously afflicted with MoralMyopia, but is never called out on this by anyone else and the story keeps trying to push him as right even when he\\\'s clearly not. Isn\\\'t that the very definition of CantArgueWithElves?
\\\'\\\'Strangely, the humans are not allowed to take offense, demand politeness, defend themselves or — heaven forbid — mock the elves right back.\\\'\\\'
Secondly, there are legitimate reasons for the war. First and foremost being the Cataclysm wrecking Azeroth and placing a strain on resources. Then there\\\'s the Forsaken\\\'s plague, which was developed by experimenting on Alliance citizens while the two factions were at peace (it\\\'s use at Wrathgate was unintentional on Sylvanas\\\' part, but it\\\'s development was not). And yes, there is also the fact that Garrosh thinks the Horde should rule the world. But what\\\'s the Alliance supposed to do about that? Let him wipe them out because fighting is wrong? The Pandaren themselves have fought wars for survival against the Mantid and Mogu. How are those wars any different, except that Taran Zhu tells us they are because reasons?
Thirdly, Taran Zhu is a hypocrite. He claims the outsiders are the ones destroying Pandaria, but he allows his own hatred of the outsiders to make HIM vulnerable to Sha possession. You might think that\\\'s the point of the character -to show that no one is above the danger of the Sha- except that Zhu is neither humbled by the experience nor called out on it by anyone else, and as soon as he\\\'s saved -by the Horde/Alliance- goes right back to blaming everything on them. It is also his insistence on giving Garrosh a fair trial that leads to his escape and creation of the Iron Horde. Yeah, those peaceful ways really turned out great there.
Taran Zhu is a character who is very obviously afflicted with MoralMyopia, but is never called out on this by anyone else and the story keeps trying to push him as right even when he\\\'s clearly not. Isn\\\'t that the very definition of CantArgueWithElves?
