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\\\"As the writeup said, he goes out of his way to help anyone who needs help, no matter their species or what-have-you.\\\"
Not true. The \\\'\\\'player\\\'\\\' has the \\\'\\\'option\\\'\\\' of making him go out of his way to help people, but they also have the option of not pursuing those sidequests. Even for the fetch quests necessitated by the plot, there is no reason to believe he is doing those things out of the goodness of his heart, since they are required to progress and often result in great personal benefits. For instance, many \\\'\\\'Majora\\\'s Mask\\\'\\\' players only re-fix the regions on subsequent cycles if they can get something out of it (like the sword upgrade). If Link\\\'s character is an extension of player behavior, that potentially casts him as a pretty amoral person who only helps people with the knowledge he\\\'ll be rewarded. \\\'\\\'(Edit: Oh actually, in Oracle of Ages the final ChainOfDeals recipient implies Link is pretty steamed about only getting a broken sword, so this might actually be canon.)\\\'\\\' And maybe he\\\'s secretly bitter and hateful about having to help gorons/zora/whatevers but grits his teeth and goes along with it because he has no other choice? That\\\'s a purposefully negative and cynical theory, but there\\\'s just as much hard evidence for it as him being a perfect saint. Which is to say, none at all.
Even if we remove the player influence argument and try to view him as his own character, his actions aren\\\'t reflective of above-and-beyond saint-like goodness. He just protects innocent bystanders and stops evil megalomaniacs from taking over the world; I think that\\\'s simply what any normal, non-sociopathic person would do in his situation. As I said, AllLovingHero is a very high bar and I don\\\'t see any evidence for Link fitting it. His first method for dealing with the bad guys is always violence, never an idealistic speech about ThePowerOfFriendship.
tl;dr NiceGuy =/= AllLovingHero
Not true. The \\\'\\\'player\\\'\\\' has the \\\'\\\'option\\\'\\\' of making him go out of his way to help people, but they also have the option of not pursuing those sidequests. Even for the fetch quests necessitated by the plot, there is no reason to believe he is doing those things out of the goodness of his heart, since they are required to progress and often result in great personal benefits. For instance, many \\\'\\\'Majora\\\'s Mask\\\'\\\' players only re-fix the regions on subsequent cycles if they can get something out of it (like the sword upgrade). If Link\\\'s character is an extension of player behavior, that potentially casts him as a pretty amoral person who only helps people with the knowledge he\\\'ll be rewarded. \\\'\\\'(Edit: Oh actually, in Oracle of Ages the final ChainOfDeals recipient implies Link is pretty steamed about only getting a broken sword, so this might actually be canon.)\\\'\\\' And maybe he\\\'s secretly bitter and hateful about having to help gorons/zora/whatevers but grits his teeth and goes along with it because he has no other choice? That\\\'s a purposefully negative and cynical theory, but there\\\'s just as much hard evidence for it as him being a perfect saint. Which is to say, none at all.
Even if we remove the player influence argument and try to view him as his own character, his actions aren\\\'t reflective of above-and-beyond saint-like goodness. He just protects innocent bystanders and stops evil megalomaniacs from taking over the world; I think that\\\'s simply what any normal, non-sociopathic person would do in his situation. As I said, AllLovingHero is a very high bar and I don\\\'t see any evidence for Link fitting it. His first method for dealing with the bad guys is always violence, never an idealistic speech about ThePowerOfFriendship.
tl;dr NiceGuy =/= AllLovingHero
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\\\"As the writeup said, he goes out of his way to help anyone who needs help, no matter their species or what-have-you.\\\"
Not true. The \\\'\\\'player\\\'\\\' has the \\\'\\\'option\\\'\\\' of making him go out of his way to help people, but they also have the option of not pursuing those sidequests. Even for the fetch quests necessitated by the plot, there is no reason to believe he is doing those things out of the goodness of his heart, since they are required to progress and often result in great personal benefits. For instance, many \\\'\\\'Majora\\\'s Mask\\\'\\\' players only re-fix the regions on subsequent cycles if they can get something out of it (like the sword upgrade). If Link\\\'s character is an extension of player behavior, that potentially casts him as a pretty amoral person who only helps people with the knowledge he\\\'ll be rewarded. And maybe he\\\'s secretly bitter and hateful about having to help gorons/zora/whatevers but grits his teeth and goes along with it because he has no other choice? That\\\'s a purposefully negative and cynical theory, but there\\\'s just as much hard evidence for it as him being a perfect saint. Which is to say, none at all.
Even if we remove the player influence argument and try to view him as his own character, his actions aren\\\'t reflective of above-and-beyond saint-like goodness. He just protects innocent bystanders and stops evil megalomaniacs from taking over the world; I think that\\\'s simply what any normal, non-sociopathic person would do in his situation. As I said, AllLovingHero is a very high bar and I don\\\'t see any evidence for Link fitting it. His first method for dealing with the bad guys is always violence, never an idealistic speech about ThePowerOfFriendship.
tl;dr NiceGuy =/= AllLovingHero
Not true. The \\\'\\\'player\\\'\\\' has the \\\'\\\'option\\\'\\\' of making him go out of his way to help people, but they also have the option of not pursuing those sidequests. Even for the fetch quests necessitated by the plot, there is no reason to believe he is doing those things out of the goodness of his heart, since they are required to progress and often result in great personal benefits. For instance, many \\\'\\\'Majora\\\'s Mask\\\'\\\' players only re-fix the regions on subsequent cycles if they can get something out of it (like the sword upgrade). If Link\\\'s character is an extension of player behavior, that potentially casts him as a pretty amoral person who only helps people with the knowledge he\\\'ll be rewarded. And maybe he\\\'s secretly bitter and hateful about having to help gorons/zora/whatevers but grits his teeth and goes along with it because he has no other choice? That\\\'s a purposefully negative and cynical theory, but there\\\'s just as much hard evidence for it as him being a perfect saint. Which is to say, none at all.
Even if we remove the player influence argument and try to view him as his own character, his actions aren\\\'t reflective of above-and-beyond saint-like goodness. He just protects innocent bystanders and stops evil megalomaniacs from taking over the world; I think that\\\'s simply what any normal, non-sociopathic person would do in his situation. As I said, AllLovingHero is a very high bar and I don\\\'t see any evidence for Link fitting it. His first method for dealing with the bad guys is always violence, never an idealistic speech about ThePowerOfFriendship.
tl;dr NiceGuy =/= AllLovingHero
