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Would the pokedex from \'\'Franchise/Pokemon\'\' count as one of these, at least in the way it\'s organized? I\'m all for an in-game log to keep track of all the creatures you encounter. But it\'s a little ridiculous that separate stages for each pokemon that evolves (which inspires a rant I\'ll save for a more relevant page) are listed in the dex as though they\'re separate species all together. Even more arbitrary is that each pokemon in all their stages has a number assigned to them. What even is the purpose for those numbers? Is it supposed to indicate the order in which each pokemon and their stages are discovered? If that\'s so, then shouldn\'t [[CrystalDragonJesus Arceus]] (with Mew likely showing up just before any non-legendaries) be at the beginning of the dex and not bulbasaur? Then there\'s the flavor text for certain entries that state the pokemon in question as being capable of doing things that its stats, abilities, and natural movepool would say otherwise. Like, there is no way this thing could function as a legit means for studying pokemon in a more realistic setting. In before someone calls me out on expecting anything realistic in a world full of these fantastical monsters, I\'m not in the mood for cop-out answers like that.
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Would the pokedex from {{Pokemon}} count as one of these, at least in the way it\\\'s organized? I\\\'m all for an in-game log to keep track of all the creatures you encounter. But it\\\'s a little ridiculous that separate stages for each pokemon that evolves (which inspires a rant I\\\'ll save for a more relevant page) are listed in the dex as though they\\\'re separate species all together. Even more arbitrary is that each pokemon in all their stages has a number assigned to them. What even is the purpose for those numbers? Is it supposed to indicate the order in which each pokemon and their stages are discovered? If that\\\'s so, then shouldn\\\'t [[CrystalDragonJesus Arceus]] (with Mew likely showing up just before any non-legendaries) be at the beginning of the dex and not bulbasaur? Then there\\\'s the flavor text for certain entries that state the pokemon in question as being capable of doing things that its stats, abilities, and natural movepool would say otherwise. Like, there is no way this thing could function as a legit means for studying pokemon in a more realistic setting. In before someone calls me out on expecting anything realistic in a world full of these fantastical monsters, I\\\'m not in the mood for cop-out answers like that.
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* Where is it shown that \\\"only trusted people had access to the Goblet\\\"? Everyone in the castle had access to it.
* If someone wanted to sneak Harry\\\'s name into the Goblet, they wouldn\\\'t need to disguise themselves (unless they did so to access Hogwarts in the first place). They\\\'d just have to make sure that the deed couldn\\\'t be pinned on them. So at this point, no-one has any reason to suspect a disguise.
* The only members of staff who are shown to have knowledge of the theft from Snape\\\'s office are Snape himself and Crouch. No-one else knows, and so it occurs to no-one that anyone\\\'s using Polyjuice Potion.
* Relating to the above point, Snape just assumes (again) that Harry is responsible, since he was out of bed the night of the theft. Crouch meanwhile wouldn\\\'t want to bring it up, lest it compromise his disguise. And while it\\\'s likely Snape would have complained to Dumbledore about the theft, to Dumbledore, or anyone who knows the Potions Master, this would come off as Snape being prejudiced again.
* In the books, Crouch Sr. had vanished a while before Moody got involved; the last people to see him around were Krum and Harry.
* Moody\\\'s frequent drinking from his flask has an in-universe explanation: he refuses to drink anything he doesn\\\'t keep on his person at all times, for fear of being poisoned.
* Also, how is anyone supposed to know that Moody\\\'s drinking from his flask once every hour. I think it very unlikely that anyone in the castle was watching him 24/7.
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* Where is it shown that \
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* Where is it shown that \\\"only trusted people had access to the Goblet\\\"? Everyone in the castle had access to it.
* If someone wanted to sneak Harry\\\'s name into the Goblet, they wouldn\\\'t need to disguise themselves (unless they did so to access Hogwarts in the first place). They\\\'d just have to make sure that the deed couldn\\\'t be pinned on them. So at this point, no-one has any reason to suspect a disguise.
* The only members of staff who are shown to have knowledge of the theft from Snape\\\'s office are Snape himself and Crouch. No-one else knows, and so it occurs to no-one that anyone\\\'s using Polyjuice Potion.
* Relating to the above point, Snape just assumes (again) that Harry is responsible, since he was out of bed the night of the theft. Crouch meanwhile wouldn\\\'t want to bring it up, lest it compromise his disguise. And while it\\\'s likely Snape would have complained to Dumbledore about the theft, to Dumbledore, or anyone who knows the Potions Master, this would come off as Snape being prejudiced again.
* In the books, Crouch Sr. had vanished a while before Moody got involved; the last people to see him around were Krum and Harry.
* Moody\\\'s frequent drinking from his flask has an in-universe explanation: he refuses to drink anything he doesn\\\'t keep on his person at all times, out of fear of being poisoned,
* Also, how is anyone supposed to know that Moody\\\'s drinking from his flask once every hour. I think it very unlikely that anyone in the castle was watching him 24/7.
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I don\'t think this example should be on this page in its current state due to the following reasons:
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I don\\\'t think this example should be on this page in its current state, because I feel it\\\'s wrong about a number of things:
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* Where is it shown that \
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* Where is it shown that \\\"only trusted people had access to the Goblet\\\"? Everyone in the castle had access to it.
* If someone wanted to sneak Harry\\\'s name into the Goblet, they wouldn\\\'t need to disguise themselves (unless they did so to access Hogwarts in the first place). They\\\'d just have to make sure that the deed couldn\\\'t be pinned on them. So at this point, no-one has any reason to suspect a disguise.
* The only members of staff who are shown to have knowledge of the theft from Snape\\\'s office are Snape himself and Crouch. No-one else knows, and so it occurs to no-one that anyone\\\'s using Polyjuice Potion.
* Relating to the above point, Snape just assumes (again) that Harry is responsible, since he was out of bed the night of the theft. Crouch meanwhile wouldn\\\'t want to bring it up, lest it compromise his disguise. And while it\\\'s likely Snape would have complained to Dumbledore about the theft, to Dumbledore, or anyone who knows the Potions Master, this would come off as Snape being prejudiced again.
* In the books, Crouch Sr. had vanished a while before Moody got involved; the last people to see him around were Krum and Harry.
* Moody\\\'s frequent drinking from his flask has an in-universe explanation: he refuses to drink anything he doesn\\\'t keep on his person at all times. Also, how is anyone supposed to know that Moody\\\'s drinking from his flask once every hour. I think it very unlikely that anyone in the castle was watching him 24/7.
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My argument:
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I don\\\'t think this example should be on this page in its current state due to the following reasons:
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* Where is it shown that \
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* Where is it shown that \\\"only trusted people had access to the Goblet\\\"? Everyone in the castle had access to it.
* If someone wanted to sneak Harry\\\'s name into the Goblet, they wouldn\\\'t need to disguise themselves (unless they did so to access Hogwarts in the first place). They\\\'d just have to make sure that the deed couldn\\\'t be pinned on them. So at this point, no-one has any reason to suspect a disguise.
* The only members of staff who are shown to have knowledge of the theft from Snape\\\'s office are Snape himself and Crouch. No-one else knows, and so it occurs to no-one that anyone\\\'s using Polyjuice Potion.
* Relating to the above point, Snape just assumes (again) that Harry is responsible, since he was out of bed the night of the theft. Crouch meanwhile wouldn\\\'t want to bring it up, lest it compromise his disguise. And while it\\\'s likely Snape would have complained to Dumbledore about the theft, to Dumbledore, or anyone who knows the Potions Master, this would come off as Snape being prejudiced again.
* In the books, Crouch Sr. had vanished a while before Moody got involved; the last people to see him around were Krum and Harry.
* Moody\\\'s frequent drinking from his flask has an in-universe explanation: he refuses to drink anything he doesn\\\'t keep on his person at all times. Also, how is anyone supposed to know that Moody\\\'s drinking from his flask once every hour. I think it very unlikely that anyone in the castle was watching him 24/7.
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* Where is it shown that \
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* Where is it shown that \\\"only trusted people had access to the Goblet\\\"? Everyone in the castle had access to it.
* If someone wanted to sneak Harry\\\'s name into the Goblet, they wouldn\\\'t need to disguise themselves (unless they did so to access Hogwarts in the first place). They\\\'d just have to make sure that the deed couldn\\\'t be pinned on them. So at this point, no-one has any reason to suspect a disguise.
* The only members of staff who are shown to have knowledge of the theft from Snape\\\'s office are Snape himself and Crouch. No-one else knows, and so it occurs to no-one that anyone\\\'s using Polyjuice Potion.
* Relating to the above point, Snape just assumes (again) that Harry is responsible, since he was out of bed the night of the theft. Crouch meanwhile wouldn\\\'t want to bring it up, lest it compromise his disguise. And while it\\\'s likely Snape would have complained to Dumbledore about the theft, to Dumbledore, or anyone who knows the Potions Master, this would come off as Snape being prejudiced again.
* In the books, Crouch Sr. had vanished a while before Moody got involved; the last people to see him around were Krum and Harry.
* Moody\\\'s frequent drinking from his flask has an in-universe explanation: he refuses to drink anything he doesn\\\'t keep on his person at all times. Also, how is anyone supposed to know that Moody\\\'s drinking from his flask once every hour. I think it very unlikely that anyone in the castle was watching him 24/7.
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