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1 Alright I guess what I\'m trying to say here is that Aizen doesn\'t trust anyone and no-one should trust him. He monologues about how trust is for the weak and he screws over Gin and Tousen as much as anybody else in the series. At least Ginjo and Tsukishima trusted each other and obviously Yhwach trusts Haschwalth if he\'s willing to tell him about the letter system. I would like to point out Quilge Opie saying that Yhwach gave him the letter \
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1 Alright I guess what I\\\'m trying to say here is that Aizen doesn\\\'t trust anyone and no-one should trust him. He monologues about how trust is for the weak and he screws over Gin and Tousen as much as anybody else in the series. At least Ginjo and Tsukishima trusted each other and obviously Yhwach trusts Haschwalth if he\\\'s willing to tell him about the letter system. I would like to point out Quilge Opie saying that Yhwach gave him the letter \\\"J\\\" so that shows at least some knowledge on their part as to what is going on and to be fair Uryu joined Yhwach for revenge, Yhwach never offered him anything that we know of.

2. Ok you lost me here. How was Yhwach openly traitorous to the quincies. He steals the powers of the quincies he feels are unworthy of it and for quincies that survived like As Nodt he gave them greater power and those who follow him are completely loyal and even willing to die by his hand, some would even prefer it.

3. We do know what Yhwach wants or why he is waging his war. He needs war in order to continually revitalize himself. The only time he mentions the Royal Guard his words are along the lines of \\\"Oh they\\\'ll probably show up, let\\\'s retreat and get ready for them\\\" I don\\\'t know how you can misconstrue that as him wanting them to show up or he even wants anything to do with them.

4. Christian demonology is very clear that demons are evil or fallen angels as well as the disembodied spirits of Nephilim. Also any Pagan Gods are considered demons as well but that can\\\'t be applied to too many things either.

5. Fair enough.

Ok I see your points and I\\\'m willing to keep the Aizen entry of this page until more is revealed about the Spirit King and his motives, but I don\\\'t think Yhwach fits the trope better because to the quincies he is the messiah and there really aren\\\'t any parallels between him and Satan they may slightly share some motifs, but that isn\\\'t this trope either. Also you still didn\\\'t mention anything on my points about he main Satan page and this page being disjointed, which is a problem because one leads to the other.
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1 Alright I guess what I\'m trying to say here is that Aizen doesn\'t trust anyone and no-one should trust him. He monologues about how trust is for the weak and he screws over Gin and Tousen as much as anybody else in the series. At least Ginjo and Tsukishima trusted each other and obviously Yhwach trusts Haschwalth if he\'s willing to tell him about the letter system. I would like to point out Quilge Opie saying that Yhwach gave him the letter \
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1 Alright I guess what I\\\'m trying to say here is that Aizen doesn\\\'t trust anyone and no-one should trust him. He monologues about how trust is for the weak and he screws over Gin and Tousen as much as anybody else in the series. At least Ginjo and Tsukishima trusted each other and obviously Yhwach trusts Haschwalth if he\\\'s willing to tell him about the letter system. I would like to point out Quilge Opie saying that Yhwach gave him the letter \\\"J\\\" so that shows at least some knowledge on their part as to what is going on and to be fair Uryu joined Yhwach for revenge, Yhwach never offered him anything that we know of.

2. Ok you lost me here. How was Yhwach openly traitorous to the quincies. He steals the powers of the quincies he feels are unworthy of it and for quincies that survived like As Nodt he gave them greater power and those who follow him are completely loyal and even willing to die by his hand, some would even prefer it.

3. We do know what Yhwach wants or why he is waging his war. He needs war in order to continually revitalize himself. The only time he mentions the Royal Guard his words are along the lines of \\\"Oh they\\\'ll probably show up, let\\\'s retreat and get ready for them\\\" I don\\\'t know how you can misconstrue that as him wanting them to show up or he even wants anything to do with them.

4. Christian demonology is very clear that demons are evil or fallen angels as well as the disembodied spirits of Nephilim. Also any Pagan Gods are considered demons as well put that can\\\'t be applied to too many things either.

5. Fair enough.

Ok I see your points and I\\\'m willing to keep the Aizen entry of this page until more is revealed about the Spirit King and his motives, but I don\\\'t think Yhwach fits the trope better because to the quincies he is the messiah and there really aren\\\'t any parallels between him and Satan they may slightly share some motifs, but that isn\\\'t this trope either. Also you still didn\\\'t mention anything on my points about he main Satan page and this page being disjointed, which is a problem because one leads to the other.
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