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Also, looking at the Wiki of Ice and Fire\'s pages on the \
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Also, looking at the Wiki of Ice and Fire\\\'s pages on the \\\"Rainbow Guard\\\" (what Renly\\\'s Kingsguard is called in the books), it really seems like it simply didn\\\'t have the requirements of the Official Kingsguard, so there wouldn\\\'t be an issue with Loras joining it, even if he was the only/oldest son.
Brienne herself is (in the books) her father\\\'s only living child, and apparently one of the other knights, [[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bryce_Caron Bryce Caron]], was already the head of his House, since everyone else died of an epidemic.
So, being a member of Renly\\\'s Guard doesn\\\'t seem to have any impact on inheritance/titles. Also, while I\\\'m not sure how much can be judged due to Westerosi gender roles, but there seemed to be an expectation that Brienne could retire and marry at any time she wanted (and there\\\'s no indication that any of the other members were prohibited from marrying).
Edit- One thought that strikes me, is that the pretenders to the throne either have unconvential kingsguards or don\\\'t have them, because they still have the one in Kings Landing to deal with if/when they gain the throne. At that point, they would demand allegiance from those members; if they did pledge loyalty, then that ruler now has a Kingsguard; if not, they can execute those members and replace them with new ones. It is only at that point that a new ruler would need to demand celibacy and forsaking of lands and titles from their loyal knights.
Edit2- Condensed things a bit.
Brienne herself is (in the books) her father\\\'s only living child, and apparently one of the other knights, [[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bryce_Caron Bryce Caron]], was already the head of his House, since everyone else died of an epidemic.
So, being a member of Renly\\\'s Guard doesn\\\'t seem to have any impact on inheritance/titles. Also, while I\\\'m not sure how much can be judged due to Westerosi gender roles, but there seemed to be an expectation that Brienne could retire and marry at any time she wanted (and there\\\'s no indication that any of the other members were prohibited from marrying).
Edit- One thought that strikes me, is that the pretenders to the throne either have unconvential kingsguards or don\\\'t have them, because they still have the one in Kings Landing to deal with if/when they gain the throne. At that point, they would demand allegiance from those members; if they did pledge loyalty, then that ruler now has a Kingsguard; if not, they can execute those members and replace them with new ones. It is only at that point that a new ruler would need to demand celibacy and forsaking of lands and titles from their loyal knights.
Edit2- Condensed things a bit.
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Also, looking at the Wiki of Ice and Fire\'s pages on the \
to:
Also, looking at the Wiki of Ice and Fire\\\'s pages on the \\\"Rainbow Guard\\\" (what Renly\\\'s Kingsguard is called in the books), it really seems like it simply didn\\\'t have the requirements of the Official Kingsguard, so there wouldn\\\'t be an issue with Loras joining it.
Brienne herself is (in the books) her father\\\'s only living child, and apparently one of the other knights, [[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bryce_Caron Bryce Caron]], was already the head of his House, since everyone else died of an epidemic.
So, being a member of Renly\\\'s Guard doesn\\\'t seem to have any impact on inheritance/titles. Also, while I\\\'m not sure how much can be judged due to Westerosi gender roles, but there seemed to be an expectation that Brienne could retire and marry at any time she wanted (and there\\\'s no indication that any of the other members were prohibited from marrying).
Edit- One thought that strikes me, is that the pretenders to the throne either have unconvential kingsguards or don\\\'t have them, because they still have the one in Kings Landing to deal with if/when they gain the throne. At that point, they would demand allegiance from those members; if they did pledge loyalty, then that ruler now has a Kingsguard; if not, they can execute those members and replace them with new ones. It is only at that point that a new ruler would need to demand celibacy and forsaking of lands and titles from their loyal knights.
Edit2- Condensed things a bit.
Brienne herself is (in the books) her father\\\'s only living child, and apparently one of the other knights, [[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bryce_Caron Bryce Caron]], was already the head of his House, since everyone else died of an epidemic.
So, being a member of Renly\\\'s Guard doesn\\\'t seem to have any impact on inheritance/titles. Also, while I\\\'m not sure how much can be judged due to Westerosi gender roles, but there seemed to be an expectation that Brienne could retire and marry at any time she wanted (and there\\\'s no indication that any of the other members were prohibited from marrying).
Edit- One thought that strikes me, is that the pretenders to the throne either have unconvential kingsguards or don\\\'t have them, because they still have the one in Kings Landing to deal with if/when they gain the throne. At that point, they would demand allegiance from those members; if they did pledge loyalty, then that ruler now has a Kingsguard; if not, they can execute those members and replace them with new ones. It is only at that point that a new ruler would need to demand celibacy and forsaking of lands and titles from their loyal knights.
Edit2- Condensed things a bit.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
Also, looking at the Wiki of Ice and Fire\'s pages on the \
to:
Also, looking at the Wiki of Ice and Fire\\\'s pages on the \\\"Rainbow Guard\\\" (what Renly\\\'s Kingsguard is called in the books), it really seems like it simply didn\\\'t have the requirements of the Official Kingsguard, so there wouldn\\\'t be an issue with Loras joining it.
Brienne herself is (in the books) her father\\\'s only living child, and apparently one of the other knights, [[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bryce_Caron Bryce Caron]], was already the head of his House, since everyone else died of an epidemic.
There\\\'s no implication that either of them (or any of the other members) renounced their inheritance. Also, while I\\\'m not sure how much can be judged due to Westerosi gender roles, but there seemed to be an expectation that Brienne could retire and marry at any time she wanted (and there\\\'s no indication that any of the other members were prohibited from marrying).
Edit- While not stated outright, my sense is that the reason why Renly\\\'s \\\"Kingsguard\\\" is this way (and why other pretenders to the throne don\\\'t even have one) is because there is still a question of what to do with Joffrey\\\'s Kingsguard if/when they win- once on the Iron Throne, Renly (and the others) would demand that they swore allegiance to them. If they did, great; if not, they would execute those members- and then have to fill it in with more.
Brienne herself is (in the books) her father\\\'s only living child, and apparently one of the other knights, [[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bryce_Caron Bryce Caron]], was already the head of his House, since everyone else died of an epidemic.
There\\\'s no implication that either of them (or any of the other members) renounced their inheritance. Also, while I\\\'m not sure how much can be judged due to Westerosi gender roles, but there seemed to be an expectation that Brienne could retire and marry at any time she wanted (and there\\\'s no indication that any of the other members were prohibited from marrying).
Edit- While not stated outright, my sense is that the reason why Renly\\\'s \\\"Kingsguard\\\" is this way (and why other pretenders to the throne don\\\'t even have one) is because there is still a question of what to do with Joffrey\\\'s Kingsguard if/when they win- once on the Iron Throne, Renly (and the others) would demand that they swore allegiance to them. If they did, great; if not, they would execute those members- and then have to fill it in with more.
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Also, I\'m getting a sense that Renly\'s kingsguard (known as the \
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Also, looking at the Wiki of Ice and Fire\\\'s pages on the \\\"Rainbow Guard\\\" (what Renly\\\'s Kingsguard is called in the books), it really seems like it simply didn\\\'t have the requirements of the Official Kingsguard, so there wouldn\\\'t be an issue with Loras joining it.
Brienne herself is (in the books) her father\\\'s only living child, and apparently one of the other knights, [[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bryce_Caron Bryce Caron]], was already the head of his House, since everyone else died of an epidemic.
There\\\'s no implication that either of them (or any of the other members) renounced their inheritance. Also, while I\\\'m not sure how much can be judged due to Westerosi gender roles, but there seemed to be an expectation that Brienne could retire and marry at any time she wanted (and there\\\'s no indication that any of the other members were prohibited from marrying).
Brienne herself is (in the books) her father\\\'s only living child, and apparently one of the other knights, [[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Bryce_Caron Bryce Caron]], was already the head of his House, since everyone else died of an epidemic.
There\\\'s no implication that either of them (or any of the other members) renounced their inheritance. Also, while I\\\'m not sure how much can be judged due to Westerosi gender roles, but there seemed to be an expectation that Brienne could retire and marry at any time she wanted (and there\\\'s no indication that any of the other members were prohibited from marrying).
