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\\\"14th candidate\\\" you mean. And that wasn\\\'t the main argument for his disqualification because that fan theory was \\\'\\\'fucking stupid\\\'\\\' to begin with. Seriously, a letter for a name leads to \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' theory? For one thing, baby killing\\\'s too dark for a {{Pokemon}} game, even with all the other dark stuff they put in. And if Ghetsis had to go through 13 kids before he finally got it right, he would\\\'ve been at this for years and years, and clearly Ghetsis is not \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' old. The \\\"no offscreen villainy!\\\" policy is a better reason, but still not agreeable seeing as we \\\'\\\'see\\\'\\\' the results of Ghetsis\\\' upbringing of N on-screen (N\\\'s room, N\\\'s beliefs, N\\\'s actions), which match up perfectly with what Anthea, Concordia, and the man himself tell us.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. In this story, Ghetsis is pretty much presented as the devil. And even by Pokemon standards, at least Cyrus played by the rules of Pokemon battle. Ghetsis was going to have a Pokemon attack the KidHero directly.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. In this story, Ghetsis is pretty much presented as the devil. And even by Pokemon standards, at least Cyrus played by the rules of Pokemon battle. Ghetsis was going to have a Pokemon attack the KidHero directly.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
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\\\"14th candidate\\\" you mean. And that wasn\\\'t the main argument for his disqualification because that fan theory was \\\'\\\'fucking stupid\\\'\\\' to begin with. Seriously, a letter for a name leads to \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' theory? For one thing, baby killing\\\'s too dark for a {{Pokemon}} game, even with all the other dark stuff they put in. And if Ghetsis had to go through 13 kids before he finally got it right, he would\\\'ve been at this for years and years, and clearly Ghetsis is not \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' old. The \\\"no offscreen villainy!\\\" policy is a better reason, but still not agreeable seeing as we \\\'\\\'see\\\'\\\' the results of Ghetsis\\\' upbringing of N on-screen (N\\\'s room, N\\\'s beliefs, N\\\'s actions), which match up perfectly with what Anthea, Concordia, and the man himself tell us.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. In this story, Ghetsis is presented as essentially the devil. And even by Pokemon standards, at least Cyrus played by the rules of Pokemon battle. Ghetsis was going to have a Pokemon attack the KidHero directly.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. In this story, Ghetsis is presented as essentially the devil. And even by Pokemon standards, at least Cyrus played by the rules of Pokemon battle. Ghetsis was going to have a Pokemon attack the KidHero directly.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
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\\\"14th candidate\\\" you mean. And that wasn\\\'t the main argument for his disqualification because that fan theory was \\\'\\\'fucking stupid\\\'\\\' to begin with. Seriously, a letter for a name leads to \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' theory? For one thing, baby killing\\\'s too dark for a {{Pokemon}} game, even with all the other dark stuff they put in. And if Ghetsis had to go through 13 kids before he finally got it right, he would\\\'ve been at this for years and years, and clearly Ghetsis is not \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' old. The \\\"no offscreen villainy!\\\" policy is a better reason, but still not agreeable seeing as we \\\'\\\'see\\\'\\\' the results of Ghetsis\\\' upbringing of N on-screen (N\\\'s room, N\\\'s beliefs, N\\\'s actions), which match up perfectly with what Anthea, Concordia, and the man himself tell us.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. And in this story, Ghetsis is presented as essentially the devil.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]] is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. And in this story, Ghetsis is presented as essentially the devil.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
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\\\"14th candidate\\\" you mean. And that wasn\\\'t the main argument for his disqualification because that fan theory was \\\'\\\'fucking stupid\\\'\\\' to begin with. Seriously, a letter for a name leads to \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' theory? For one thing, baby killing\\\'s too dark for a {{Pokemon}} game, even with all the other dark stuff they put in. And if Ghetsis had to go through 13 kids before he finally got it right, he would\\\'ve been at this for years and years, and clearly Ghetsis is not \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' old. The \\\"no offscreen villainy!\\\" policy is a better reason, but still not agreeable seeing as we \\\'\\\'see\\\'\\\' the results of Ghetsis\\\' upbringing of N on-screen (N\\\'s room, N\\\'s beliefs, N\\\'s actions), which match up perfectly with what Anthea, Concordia, and the man himself tell us.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that Cyrus is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. And in this story, Ghetsis is presented as essentially the devil.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that Cyrus is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. And in this story, Ghetsis is presented as essentially the devil.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
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\\\"14th candidate\\\" you mean. And that wasn\\\'t the main argument for his disqualification because that fan theory was \\\'\\\'fucking stupid\\\'\\\' to begin with. Seriously, a letter for a name leads to \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' theory? For one thing, baby killing\\\'s too dark for a {{Pokemon}} game, even with all the other dark stuff they put in. And if Ghetsis had to go through 13 kids before he finally got it right, he would\\\'ve been at this for years and years, and clearly Ghetsis is not \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' old. The \\\"no offscreen villainy!\\\" policy is a better reason, but still not agreeable seeing as we \\\'\\\'see\\\'\\\' the results of Ghetsis\\\' upbringing of N on-screen (N\\\'s room, N\\\'s beliefs, N\\\'s actions), which match up perfectly with what Anthea, Concordia, and the man himself tell us.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that Cyrus is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. And in this story, Ghetsis is presented as essentially the devil.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
I agree that it\\\'s inexcusable. Ghetsis was eliminated for bogus criteria brought up on the forums (mainly failing the heinous standard) even though he matches the actual trope \\\'\\\'perfectly.\\\'\\\' Let\\\'s see:
\\\'\\\'The Complete Monster is the most depraved of all characters; a villain utterly lacking in redeeming features.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis is depraved and utterly lacking in redeeming features.
\\\'\\\'Or, anyway, that is how the character is presented in the story. The character is a bad guy, full stop.\\\'\\\' Check. He\\\'s presented as a bad guy, full stop.
\\\'\\\'The author has not taken the character through any actions toward redemption, or at least any that stuck.\\\'\\\' Check. He even had a RedemptionRejection in the sequel.
\\\'\\\'The character is truly heinous by the standards of the story, which makes no attempt to present the character in any positive way.\\\'\\\' Check. I\\\'ve stated before that Cyrus is a moot point in these games\\\' \\\'\\\'story\\\'\\\', even if it takes place in the same universe. And in this story, Ghetsis is presented as essentially the devil.
\\\'\\\'The character\\\'s terribleness is played seriously at all times, evoking fear, revulsion and hatred from the other characters in the story.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis\\\' terribleness is played up more than any other BigBad of previous games, and he does evoke those reaction from characters: Alder, Cheren, even his own henchmen.
\\\'\\\'They are completely devoid of altruistic qualities. They show no regret for their crimes.\\\'\\\' Check. Ghetsis embodies ItsAllAboutMe, caring for nothing and nobody but himself. All positive qualities are a ruse that completely breaks as the game progresses. And he regrets nothing, for he is \\\"perfect.\\\"
Though he might not count by the wiki\\\'s standards, by the standards I just listed, Ghetsis is a CompleteMonster through and through.
