[001]
TrevMUN
Current Version
Changed line(s) 7 from:
n
This comes off as @/TropeLicious [[TropeDecay abusing the trope]] to [[SnarkBait snark about the story]]. TooDumbToLive deals with characters who makes choices that will obviously put \'\'them\'\' at an obvious risk of harm or death. While Operation Dark Storm was definitely going to ruin the planet, \'\'nowhere\'\' is it implicated in any of the Matrix stories that humanity ensured its extinction simply through \
to:
This comes off as @/TropeLicious [[TropeDecay abusing the trope]] to [[SnarkBait snark about the story]]. TooDumbToLive deals with characters who makes choices that will obviously put \\\'\\\'them\\\'\\\' at an obvious risk of harm or death. While Operation Dark Storm was definitely going to ruin the planet, \\\'\\\'nowhere\\\'\\\' is it implicated in any of the Matrix stories that humanity ensured its extinction simply through \\\"the destruction of the sky.\\\" Nor is it implicated that Dark Storm allowed the machines to easily roll over the humans just because humans suddenly had no source of protein.
Despite that, @/TropeLicious tries to put it in simple quasi-mathematical terms, stating that no sun = no vegetation + no protein = humanity stupidly commits suicide. This ignores certain facets of the story. [[http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/Food The Matrix wikia]] goes into detail about food sources used by Zionites in the Real World. This isn\\\'t merely scavenging from the Machines, either: [[http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/The_Miller%27s_Tale the Zionites manage to develop farms on the surface]].
And that\\\'s just the efforts of rebels with scraps of technology left over from the Machine War, not human civilization as it was at the time Operation Dark Storm was executed. The human nations \\\'\\\'must\\\'\\\' have understood what they were about to do to the planet, and had contingencies prepared should their last-ditch gambit actually work.
This isn\\\'t even fanwank or science fiction. This is reality. We have developed [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_ecological_system closed ecological systems]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grow_light artificial light]], and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seedbank seedbanks]]. Seeds can remain viable for thousands of years.
So, no. This wasn\\\'t a case of being TooDumbToLive. This was an example of the GodzillaThreshold. \\\"There are situations so bad that anything that would end them is justified. \\\'\\\'\\\'Anything.\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\" Destroying Earth\\\'s biosphere to save humanity from extinction at the hands of the machines? Sounds like a perfect example to me.
Despite that, @/TropeLicious tries to put it in simple quasi-mathematical terms, stating that no sun = no vegetation + no protein = humanity stupidly commits suicide. This ignores certain facets of the story. [[http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/Food The Matrix wikia]] goes into detail about food sources used by Zionites in the Real World. This isn\\\'t merely scavenging from the Machines, either: [[http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/The_Miller%27s_Tale the Zionites manage to develop farms on the surface]].
And that\\\'s just the efforts of rebels with scraps of technology left over from the Machine War, not human civilization as it was at the time Operation Dark Storm was executed. The human nations \\\'\\\'must\\\'\\\' have understood what they were about to do to the planet, and had contingencies prepared should their last-ditch gambit actually work.
This isn\\\'t even fanwank or science fiction. This is reality. We have developed [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_ecological_system closed ecological systems]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grow_light artificial light]], and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seedbank seedbanks]]. Seeds can remain viable for thousands of years.
So, no. This wasn\\\'t a case of being TooDumbToLive. This was an example of the GodzillaThreshold. \\\"There are situations so bad that anything that would end them is justified. \\\'\\\'\\\'Anything.\\\'\\\'\\\'\\\" Destroying Earth\\\'s biosphere to save humanity from extinction at the hands of the machines? Sounds like a perfect example to me.
