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Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists king and president are always capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/62927609
\\\"King Charles III visited Wales today for the first time as king of the United Kingdom.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Capitalization in English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization_in_English
\\\"royal titles: \\\"King George III\\\" but \\\"kings and queens of England\\\"\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/62927609
\\\"King Charles III visited Wales today for the first time as king of the United Kingdom.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Capitalization in English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization_in_English
\\\"royal titles: \\\"King George III\\\" but \\\"kings and queens of England\\\"\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
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Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists king and president are always capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Capitalization in English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization_in_English
\\\"royal titles: \\\"King George III\\\" but \\\"kings and queens of England\\\"\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Capitalization in English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization_in_English
\\\"royal titles: \\\"King George III\\\" but \\\"kings and queens of England\\\"\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
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Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists king and president are always capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
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Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists king and president are always capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
On another topic, \\\"royal family\\\", as in \\\"British royal family\\\", probably isn\\\'t capitalized either.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
On another topic, \\\"royal family\\\", as in \\\"British royal family\\\", probably isn\\\'t capitalized either.
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Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists king and president are always capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS) is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
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Opening up conversation about passage there\'s apparently controversial capitalization over the passage: \
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Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists king and president are always capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS)[A] is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS)[A] is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
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Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over the passage: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists king and president are always capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS)[A] is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS)[A] is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
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Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over the passage: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists they\\\'re capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS)[A] is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS)[A] is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
Buckingham Palace and official royal sources capitalize, but they also use non-standard capitalization like capitalizing \\\"the\\\" in the middle of a sentence.
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Changed line(s) 1 from:
n
Opening up conversation about passage there\'s apparently controversial capitalization over the passage: \
to:
Opening up conversation about passage there\\\'s apparently controversial capitalization over the passage: \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\" (User RoseAndHeather insists they\\\'re capitalized and sent me a PM to that effect, even though this contradicts every major style guide for capitalization of political titles. From AP Stylebook: \\\"you should capitalize president only as a formal title that is before one or more names\\\". For regal titles: \\\"Capitalize king, queen, prince and princess when they are used directly before one or more names; lowercase when they stand alone: Queen Elizabeth II. The queen or Elizabeth on second reference.\\\"
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS)[A] is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
Note usage by the Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
\\\"Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday\\\"
Again: https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-iii-preserving-monarchy-bc63656c2d397bd1416ebd19c9ea24c7
\\\"In addition to being king of the United Kingdom, Charles is...\\\"
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-president-joe-bidens-inaugural-address-2021-01-20/
\\\"Following is the inauguration speech as prepared for delivery by Democrat Joe Biden, who was sworn in as president of the United States on Wednesday\\\"
Again: https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/charles-britains-conflicted-new-monarch-2022-09-08/
\\\"Prince Charles has finally become king of the United Kingdom and 14 other realms...\\\"
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/joe-biden
\\\"Biden is the 46th president of the United States and was sworn in on January 20, 2021.\\\"
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
\\\"The president of the United States (POTUS)[A] is the head of state and head of government...\\\"
But back to the passage being discussed. \\\"He could, theoretically, be king of the United Kingdom \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' the president of the United States\\\". This is a hypothetical situation, akin to saying \\\"He could be a king\\\" or \\\"He could be a president\\\". Since these are common nouns in that context, they should be lower case.
