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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \\\"poc\\\" is a very wide and imprecise term, also being restricted to American contexts. Are Arabs poc? What about Tatars? Greeks? Armenians? Berbers? Romani? Jews? Spaniards (American media actually laughably made that claim)? If by poc you mean any person who is not a Northern European, than sure, Europe was filled with such people. Despite the fact that South Asians (with the exception of the Roma), were very rare in Europe before the 19th century, most lighter skinned South Asian actors can easily fit in, and play characters of Mediterranean origin (though even them were a rarity in Scandinavia for example).
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel writer, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
You can also easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were tolerant of racial difference? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse (Jews were around 2% of the German population as a comparison).
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel writer, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
You can also easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were tolerant of racial difference? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse (Jews were around 2% of the German population as a comparison).
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \\\"poc\\\" is a very wide and imprecise term, also being restricted to American contexts. Are Arabs poc? What about Tatars? Greeks? Armenians? Berbers? Romani? Jews? Spaniards (American media actually laughably made that claim)? If by poc you mean any person who is not a Northern European, than sure, Europe was filled with such people. Despite the fact that South Asians (with the exception of the Roma), were very rare in Europe before the 19th century, most lighter skinned South Asian actors can easily fit in, and play characters of Mediterranean origin (though even them were a rarity in Scandinavia for example).
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
You can easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were tolerant of racial difference? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse (Jews were around 2% of the German population as a comparison).
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel righter, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
You can easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were tolerant of racial difference? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse (Jews were around 2% of the German population as a comparison).
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel righter, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \\\"poc\\\" is a very wide and imprecise term, also being restricted to American contexts. Are Arabs poc? What about Tatars? Greeks? Armenians? Berbers? Romani? Jews? Spaniards (American media actually laughably made that claim)? If by poc you mean any person who is not a Northern European, than sure, Europe was filled with such people. Despite the fact that South Asians (with the exception of the Roma), were very rare in Europe before the 19th century, most lighter skinned South Asian actors can easily fit in, and play characters of Mediterranean origin (though even them were a rarity in Scandinavia for example).
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
You can easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were tolerant of racial difference? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse (Jews were less than 2% of the German population).
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel righter, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
You can easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were tolerant of racial difference? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse (Jews were less than 2% of the German population).
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel righter, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \\\"poc\\\" is a very wide and imprecise term, also being restricted to American contexts. Are Arabs poc? What about Tatars? Greeks? Armenians? Berbers? Romani? Jews? Spaniards (American media actually laughably made that claim)? If by poc you mean any person who is not a Northern European, than sure, Europe was filled with such people. Despite the fact that South Asians (with the exception of the Roma), were very rare in Europe before the 19th century, most lighter skinned South Asian actors can easily fit in, and play characters of Mediterranean origin (though even them were a rarity in Scandinavia for example).
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
You can easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were tolerant of racial difference? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse.
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel righter, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
You can easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were tolerant of racial difference? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse.
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel righter, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \
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You are wideley mistaken. First of all \\\"poc\\\" is a very wide and imprecise term, also being restricted to American contexts. Are Arabs poc? What about Tatars? Greeks? Armenians? Berbers? Romani? Jews? Spaniards (American media actually laughably made that claim)? If by poc you mean any person who is not a Northern European, than sure, Europe was filled with such people. Despite the fact that South Asians (with the exception of the Roma), were very rare in Europe before the 19th century, most lighter skinned South Asian actors can easily fit in, and play characters of Mediterranean origin (though even them were a rarity in Scandinavia for example).
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
You can easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were so much more tolerant than Americans? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse.
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel righter, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
But black people, for example, were not common in Europe before the 20th century. To believe that Europe in the past was as multiracial as today after decades of mass migration of people from other Continents, and the a gigantic increase in the interconnectednes of the world and in transport is a completely anachronistic and a-historical thought.
You can easily find countless examples of black people that travelled to samll towns in Europe (some of them fairly recently) and reported that the native inhabitants had never seen a black person.
The Brazilian player Pelé reported that he was the first black person many Swedes had seen in 1950. In the same decade James Baldwin had the experience of visiting a small town in Switzerland (where his lover had a cottage) and reporting that the inhabitants had never seen a black person. In 1927 Grandfather was impressed when he saw his first black manon ship coming to the New World. He had 15 years old than, and had lived in Kharkov and Bialystok, two fairly large industrial cities in the Russian Empire. Gloria Maria, a black Brazilian reporter talked about meeting an old woman in an isolated village in Serbia who had never seen a black person (that was like 30 years ago).
Most black people in Nazi Germany were actually not particularly mistreated. Why is that? Is it because Nazis were so much more tolerant than Americans? No. It was because they were such a small minority, that they had no relevance to Nazi national discourse.
All of those stories happened in the 20th century. Imagine Europe hundreds of years before.
Surely black people can appear in many historical periods of Europe (though not all, and not in all places), but that has to be done with care. You can make a movie about a black servant in Tudor England, but than you cannot simply portray black people on the background of every scene. The arrival of black servants to Queen Mary I (from Spain), was actually seen as an event.
Maria Graham, early 19th century British travel righter, reports being scared to see so many black people in Brazil. Sure in Britain in the early 19th century, there were some black people living in major towns. But they were always a small minority (Black people in Britain were only 1.63% of the population in 1991!)
Also, historical people were NOT colour-blind, they did associate phenotype with geographical origin and culture.
