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** Hopper\'s behavior in the first two seasons of the show could come off this way to some fans who aren\'t fond of his short temper and tendencies to get violent with people in order to further his investigations, to say nothing of the show glossing over the fact that he sold out Eleven and the other kids\' location to the lab agents in the first season finale, while his harsh treatment of Eleven in season 2 has been viewed by some as bordering on emotional abuse. That said, it was in season 3 that he fell into this trope for a pretty large swathe of fans, who felt that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3cBJBhrpok the show\'s reliance on 1980s \
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** Hopper\\\'s behavior in the first two seasons of the show could come off this way to some fans who aren\\\'t fond of his short temper and tendencies to get violent with people in order to further his investigations, to say nothing of the show glossing over the fact that he sold out Eleven and the other kids\\\' location to the lab agents in the first season finale, while his harsh treatment of Eleven in season 2 has been viewed by some as bordering on emotional abuse. That said, it was in season 3 that he fell into this trope for a pretty large swathe of fans, who felt that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3cBJBhrpok the show\\\'s reliance on 1980s \\\"action hero\\\" tropes]] caused him to come off like a walking bundle of relationship red flags. A couple standout examples in particular:
*** Hopper is bothered by the relationship that Mike has formed with Eleven. Joyce suggests that Hopper have a heart-to-heart with the kids and talk out his issues with them. He deviates from the plan by luring Mike into his car to talk to him. What starts as a TwerpSweating gets worse as he proceeds to intimidate and threaten Mike. Mike is clearly very much afraid of Hopper because he\\\'s a teenage boy trapped in a car with a grown and armed man who is three times his size. When Mike is too scared the next day to meet Eleven, Hopper sings happily that no one dares to mess with him. And while Mike may have been arrogant to Hopper before, a lot of that could arguably be viewed as Hopper\\\'s fault, given that he wasn\\\'t being very respectful to Mike either. To some viewers, it comes off as a karmic punishment that Joyce stands him up in the next episode.
*** In episode 4, Hopper barges into [[SmugSnake Mayor Kline]]\\\'s office and interrogates him into giving up information, even threatening [[{{Fingore}} to cut off his finger]]. Sure, Kline is a CorruptPolitician and an arrogant asshole who\\\'s in bed with the Russians, but what Hopper does with him borders on [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique torture]]. Although Hopper is supposed to be someone who proves that GoodIsNotNice and has shown a capability for violence in earlier seasons, he generally resorted to it as a last resort (like knocking out the guard he tried to bluff at the morgue to get to Will\\\'s \\\"fake\\\" body). Him jumping straight to violence in this scene doesn\\\'t reflect well on Hopper, especially seeing as Kline is much weaker than he is and in no position to fight back.
*** His behavior towards Joyce in general comes off less like BelligerentSexualTension and more like [[https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/stranger-things-3-hopper-ending-spoilers-review-1202155392/ the actions of an abusive and controlling boyfriend]], such as refusing to listen to her reasons for standing him up on a date when she went to see Mr. Clarke, trying to push her into dating him while she\\\'s still clearly mourning Bob\\\'s death in the previous season, and then proceeding to belittle her, {{gaslight|ing}} her, and outright call her crazy (a far cry from the Hopper of seasons 1 and 2 who was firmly on Joyce\\\'s side and believed her even as efforts were made to discredit both of them). Actress Creator/EvanRachelWood was notably quoted [[https://www.yahoo.com/now/evan-rachel-wood-calls-stranger-143356588.html in a Twitter thread]] saying, \\\"You should never date a guy like the cop from #strangerthings. Extreme jealousy and violent rages are not flattering or sexy like TV would have you believe. That is all. Yes, I\\\'m aware it\\\'s \\\'just a show\\\' and it\\\'s set \\\'in the 80s\\\', even though this stuff was unacceptable then too, but that\\\'s exactly my point. It\\\'s just a show and this is a gentle reminder not to fall for this crap in real life. Red Flags galore.\\\"
*** Hopper is bothered by the relationship that Mike has formed with Eleven. Joyce suggests that Hopper have a heart-to-heart with the kids and talk out his issues with them. He deviates from the plan by luring Mike into his car to talk to him. What starts as a TwerpSweating gets worse as he proceeds to intimidate and threaten Mike. Mike is clearly very much afraid of Hopper because he\\\'s a teenage boy trapped in a car with a grown and armed man who is three times his size. When Mike is too scared the next day to meet Eleven, Hopper sings happily that no one dares to mess with him. And while Mike may have been arrogant to Hopper before, a lot of that could arguably be viewed as Hopper\\\'s fault, given that he wasn\\\'t being very respectful to Mike either. To some viewers, it comes off as a karmic punishment that Joyce stands him up in the next episode.
*** In episode 4, Hopper barges into [[SmugSnake Mayor Kline]]\\\'s office and interrogates him into giving up information, even threatening [[{{Fingore}} to cut off his finger]]. Sure, Kline is a CorruptPolitician and an arrogant asshole who\\\'s in bed with the Russians, but what Hopper does with him borders on [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique torture]]. Although Hopper is supposed to be someone who proves that GoodIsNotNice and has shown a capability for violence in earlier seasons, he generally resorted to it as a last resort (like knocking out the guard he tried to bluff at the morgue to get to Will\\\'s \\\"fake\\\" body). Him jumping straight to violence in this scene doesn\\\'t reflect well on Hopper, especially seeing as Kline is much weaker than he is and in no position to fight back.
*** His behavior towards Joyce in general comes off less like BelligerentSexualTension and more like [[https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/stranger-things-3-hopper-ending-spoilers-review-1202155392/ the actions of an abusive and controlling boyfriend]], such as refusing to listen to her reasons for standing him up on a date when she went to see Mr. Clarke, trying to push her into dating him while she\\\'s still clearly mourning Bob\\\'s death in the previous season, and then proceeding to belittle her, {{gaslight|ing}} her, and outright call her crazy (a far cry from the Hopper of seasons 1 and 2 who was firmly on Joyce\\\'s side and believed her even as efforts were made to discredit both of them). Actress Creator/EvanRachelWood was notably quoted [[https://www.yahoo.com/now/evan-rachel-wood-calls-stranger-143356588.html in a Twitter thread]] saying, \\\"You should never date a guy like the cop from #strangerthings. Extreme jealousy and violent rages are not flattering or sexy like TV would have you believe. That is all. Yes, I\\\'m aware it\\\'s \\\'just a show\\\' and it\\\'s set \\\'in the 80s\\\', even though this stuff was unacceptable then too, but that\\\'s exactly my point. It\\\'s just a show and this is a gentle reminder not to fall for this crap in real life. Red Flags galore.\\\"
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** Hopper\'s behavior in the first two seasons of the show could come off this way to some fans who aren\'t fond of his short temper and tendencies to get violent with people in order to further his investigations, to say nothing of the show glossing over the fact that he sold out Eleven and the other kids\' location to the lab agents in the first season finale, while his harsh treatment of Eleven in season 2 has been viewed by some as bordering on emotional abuse. That said, it was in season 3 that he fell into this trope for a pretty large swathe of fans, who felt that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3cBJBhrpok the show\'s reliance on 1980s \
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** Hopper\\\'s behavior in the first two seasons of the show could come off this way to some fans who aren\\\'t fond of his short temper and tendencies to get violent with people in order to further his investigations, to say nothing of the show glossing over the fact that he sold out Eleven and the other kids\\\' location to the lab agents in the first season finale, while his harsh treatment of Eleven in season 2 has been viewed by some as bordering on emotional abuse. That said, it was in season 3 that he fell into this trope for a pretty large swathe of fans, who felt that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3cBJBhrpok the show\\\'s reliance on 1980s \\\"action hero\\\" tropes]] caused him to come off off like a walking bundle of relationship red flags. A couple standout examples in particular:
*** Hopper is bothered by the relationship that Mike has formed with Eleven. Joyce suggests that Hopper have a heart-to-heart with the kids and talk out his issues with them. He deviates from the plan by luring Mike into his car to talk to him. What starts as a TwerpSweating gets worse as he proceeds to intimidate and threaten Mike. Mike is clearly very much afraid of Hopper because he\\\'s a teenage boy trapped in a car with a grown and armed man who is three times his size. When Mike is too scared the next day to meet Eleven, Hopper sings happily that no one dares to mess with him. And while Mike may have been arrogant to Hopper before, a lot of that could arguably be viewed as Hopper\\\'s fault, given that he wasn\\\'t being very respectful to Mike either. To some viewers, it comes off as a karmic punishment that Joyce stands him up in the next episode.
*** In episode 4, Hopper barges into [[SmugSnake Mayor Kline]]\\\'s office and interrogates him into giving up information, even threatening [[{{Fingore}} to cut off his finger]]. Sure, Kline is a CorruptPolitician and an arrogant asshole who\\\'s in bed with the Russians, but what Hopper does with him borders on [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique torture]]. Although Hopper is supposed to be someone who proves that GoodIsNotNice and has shown a capability for violence in earlier seasons, he generally resorted to it as a last resort (like knocking out the guard he tried to bluff at the morgue to get to Will\\\'s \\\"fake\\\" body). Him jumping straight to violence in this scene doesn\\\'t reflect well on Hopper, especially seeing as Kline is much weaker than he is and in no position to fight back.
*** His behavior towards Joyce in general comes off less like BelligerentSexualTension and more like [[https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/stranger-things-3-hopper-ending-spoilers-review-1202155392/ the actions of an abusive and controlling boyfriend]], such as refusing to listen to her reasons for standing him up on a date when she went to see Mr. Clarke, trying to push her into dating him while she\\\'s still clearly mourning Bob\\\'s death in the previous season, and then proceeding to belittle her, {{gaslight|ing}} her, and outright call her crazy (a far cry from the Hopper of seasons 1 and 2 who was firmly on Joyce\\\'s side and believed her even as efforts were made to discredit both of them). Actress Creator/EvanRachelWood was notably quoted [[https://www.yahoo.com/now/evan-rachel-wood-calls-stranger-143356588.html in a Twitter thread]] saying, \\\"You should never date a guy like the cop from #strangerthings. Extreme jealousy and violent rages are not flattering or sexy like TV would have you believe. That is all. Yes, I\\\'m aware it\\\'s \\\'just a show\\\' and it\\\'s set \\\'in the 80s\\\', even though this stuff was unacceptable then too, but that\\\'s exactly my point. It\\\'s just a show and this is a gentle reminder not to fall for this crap in real life. Red Flags galore.\\\"
*** Hopper is bothered by the relationship that Mike has formed with Eleven. Joyce suggests that Hopper have a heart-to-heart with the kids and talk out his issues with them. He deviates from the plan by luring Mike into his car to talk to him. What starts as a TwerpSweating gets worse as he proceeds to intimidate and threaten Mike. Mike is clearly very much afraid of Hopper because he\\\'s a teenage boy trapped in a car with a grown and armed man who is three times his size. When Mike is too scared the next day to meet Eleven, Hopper sings happily that no one dares to mess with him. And while Mike may have been arrogant to Hopper before, a lot of that could arguably be viewed as Hopper\\\'s fault, given that he wasn\\\'t being very respectful to Mike either. To some viewers, it comes off as a karmic punishment that Joyce stands him up in the next episode.
*** In episode 4, Hopper barges into [[SmugSnake Mayor Kline]]\\\'s office and interrogates him into giving up information, even threatening [[{{Fingore}} to cut off his finger]]. Sure, Kline is a CorruptPolitician and an arrogant asshole who\\\'s in bed with the Russians, but what Hopper does with him borders on [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique torture]]. Although Hopper is supposed to be someone who proves that GoodIsNotNice and has shown a capability for violence in earlier seasons, he generally resorted to it as a last resort (like knocking out the guard he tried to bluff at the morgue to get to Will\\\'s \\\"fake\\\" body). Him jumping straight to violence in this scene doesn\\\'t reflect well on Hopper, especially seeing as Kline is much weaker than he is and in no position to fight back.
*** His behavior towards Joyce in general comes off less like BelligerentSexualTension and more like [[https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/stranger-things-3-hopper-ending-spoilers-review-1202155392/ the actions of an abusive and controlling boyfriend]], such as refusing to listen to her reasons for standing him up on a date when she went to see Mr. Clarke, trying to push her into dating him while she\\\'s still clearly mourning Bob\\\'s death in the previous season, and then proceeding to belittle her, {{gaslight|ing}} her, and outright call her crazy (a far cry from the Hopper of seasons 1 and 2 who was firmly on Joyce\\\'s side and believed her even as efforts were made to discredit both of them). Actress Creator/EvanRachelWood was notably quoted [[https://www.yahoo.com/now/evan-rachel-wood-calls-stranger-143356588.html in a Twitter thread]] saying, \\\"You should never date a guy like the cop from #strangerthings. Extreme jealousy and violent rages are not flattering or sexy like TV would have you believe. That is all. Yes, I\\\'m aware it\\\'s \\\'just a show\\\' and it\\\'s set \\\'in the 80s\\\', even though this stuff was unacceptable then too, but that\\\'s exactly my point. It\\\'s just a show and this is a gentle reminder not to fall for this crap in real life. Red Flags galore.\\\"
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** Hopper\'s behavior in the first two seasons of the show could come off this way to some fans who aren\'t fond of his short temper and tendencies to get violent with people in order to further his investigations, to say nothing of the show glossing over the fact that he sold out Eleven and the other kids\' location to the lab agents in the first season finale, while his harsh treatment of Eleven in season 2 has been viewed by some as bordering on emotional abuse. That said, it was in season 3 that he fell into this trope for a pretty large swathe of fans, who felt that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3cBJBhrpok the show\'s reliance on 1980s \
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** Hopper\\\'s behavior in the first two seasons of the show could come off this way to some fans who aren\\\'t fond of his short temper and tendencies to get violent with people in order to further his investigations, to say nothing of the show glossing over the fact that he sold out Eleven and the other kids\\\' location to the lab agents in the first season finale, while his harsh treatment of Eleven in season 2 has been viewed by some as bordering on emotional abuse. That said, it was in season 3 that he fell into this trope for a pretty large swathe of fans, who felt that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3cBJBhrpok the show\\\'s reliance on 1980s \\\"action hero\\\" tropes]] caused him to come off off like a walking bundle of relationship red flags. A couple standout examples in particular:
*** Hopper is bothered by the relationship that Mike has formed with Eleven. Joyce suggests that Hopper have a heart-to-heart with the kids and talk out his issues with them. He deviates from the plan by luring Mike into his car to talk to him. What starts as a TwerpSweating gets worse as he proceeds to intimidate and threaten Mike. Mike is clearly very much afraid of Hopper because he\\\'s a teenage boy trapped in a car with a grown man three times his size. When Mike is too scared the next day to meet Eleven, Hopper sings happily that no one dares to mess with him. And while Mike may have been arrogant to Hopper before, a lot of that could be attributed to Hopper not treating Mike well. To some viewers, it comes off as a karmic punishment that Joyce stands him up in the next episode.
*** In episode 4, Hopper barges into [[SmugSnake Mayor Kline]]\\\'s office and interrogates him into giving up information, even threatening [[{{Fingore}} to cut off his finger]]. Sure, Kline is a CorruptPolitician and an arrogant asshole who\\\'s in bed with the Russians, but what Hopper does with him borders on [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique torture]]. Although Hopper is supposed to be someone who proves that GoodIsNotNice and has shown a capability for violence in earlier seasons, he generally resorted to it as a last resort (like knocking out the guard he tried to bluff at the morgue to get to Will\\\'s \\\"fake\\\" body). Him jumping straight to violence in this scene doesn\\\'t reflect well on Hopper, especially seeing as Kline is much weaker than he is and in no position to fight back.
*** His behavior towards Joyce in general comes off less like BelligerentSexualTension and more like [[https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/stranger-things-3-hopper-ending-spoilers-review-1202155392/ the actions of an abusive and controlling boyfriend]], such as refusing to listen to her reasons for standing him up on a date when she went to see Mr. Clarke, trying to push her into dating him while she\\\'s still clearly mourning Bob\\\'s death in the previous season, and then proceeding to belittle her, {{gaslight|ing}} her, and outright call her crazy (a far cry from the Hopper of seasons 1 and 2 who was firmly on Joyce\\\'s side and believed her even as efforts were made to discredit both of them). Actress Creator/EvanRachelWood was notably quoted [[https://www.yahoo.com/now/evan-rachel-wood-calls-stranger-143356588.html in a Twitter thread]] saying, \\\"You should never date a guy like the cop from #strangerthings. Extreme jealousy and violent rages are not flattering or sexy like TV would have you believe. That is all. Yes, I\\\'m aware it\\\'s \\\'just a show\\\' and it\\\'s set \\\'in the 80s\\\', even though this stuff was unacceptable then too, but that\\\'s exactly my point. It\\\'s just a show and this is a gentle reminder not to fall for this crap in real life. Red Flags galore.\\\"
*** Hopper is bothered by the relationship that Mike has formed with Eleven. Joyce suggests that Hopper have a heart-to-heart with the kids and talk out his issues with them. He deviates from the plan by luring Mike into his car to talk to him. What starts as a TwerpSweating gets worse as he proceeds to intimidate and threaten Mike. Mike is clearly very much afraid of Hopper because he\\\'s a teenage boy trapped in a car with a grown man three times his size. When Mike is too scared the next day to meet Eleven, Hopper sings happily that no one dares to mess with him. And while Mike may have been arrogant to Hopper before, a lot of that could be attributed to Hopper not treating Mike well. To some viewers, it comes off as a karmic punishment that Joyce stands him up in the next episode.
*** In episode 4, Hopper barges into [[SmugSnake Mayor Kline]]\\\'s office and interrogates him into giving up information, even threatening [[{{Fingore}} to cut off his finger]]. Sure, Kline is a CorruptPolitician and an arrogant asshole who\\\'s in bed with the Russians, but what Hopper does with him borders on [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique torture]]. Although Hopper is supposed to be someone who proves that GoodIsNotNice and has shown a capability for violence in earlier seasons, he generally resorted to it as a last resort (like knocking out the guard he tried to bluff at the morgue to get to Will\\\'s \\\"fake\\\" body). Him jumping straight to violence in this scene doesn\\\'t reflect well on Hopper, especially seeing as Kline is much weaker than he is and in no position to fight back.
*** His behavior towards Joyce in general comes off less like BelligerentSexualTension and more like [[https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/stranger-things-3-hopper-ending-spoilers-review-1202155392/ the actions of an abusive and controlling boyfriend]], such as refusing to listen to her reasons for standing him up on a date when she went to see Mr. Clarke, trying to push her into dating him while she\\\'s still clearly mourning Bob\\\'s death in the previous season, and then proceeding to belittle her, {{gaslight|ing}} her, and outright call her crazy (a far cry from the Hopper of seasons 1 and 2 who was firmly on Joyce\\\'s side and believed her even as efforts were made to discredit both of them). Actress Creator/EvanRachelWood was notably quoted [[https://www.yahoo.com/now/evan-rachel-wood-calls-stranger-143356588.html in a Twitter thread]] saying, \\\"You should never date a guy like the cop from #strangerthings. Extreme jealousy and violent rages are not flattering or sexy like TV would have you believe. That is all. Yes, I\\\'m aware it\\\'s \\\'just a show\\\' and it\\\'s set \\\'in the 80s\\\', even though this stuff was unacceptable then too, but that\\\'s exactly my point. It\\\'s just a show and this is a gentle reminder not to fall for this crap in real life. Red Flags galore.\\\"
