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In going through all the various threads on ATT and \
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In going through all the various threads on ATT and \\\"Is this an example\\\", it\\\'s becoming clear to me that there\\\'s an odd situation in this movie.
Namaari\\\'s \\\"\\\"you\\\'re as much to blame\\\" scene appears to be Disney really wanting to invoke the VillainHasAPoint trope for that scene. Raya even has a shocked face when Namaari delivers the line followed by a meaningful look at her reflection in her sword implying that the words have struck a chord in her.
However, the visuals in the \\\"Sisu is shot\\\" scene just don\\\'t support Namaari\\\'s accusation making her points come across as accusations and shifting blame.
Technically, this would mean the trope never really comes into play. Yet it\\\'s obvious Disney wanted to the trope to be in play but kinda failed to support the Villain. This would imply the trope is either \\\"inverted\\\" or \\\"zig-zagged\\\" in terms of its presentation.
Since the two scenes are so conflicted, I\\\'d lean with \\\"zig-zagged\\\" because the trope is kinda all over the place. Therefore, I\\\'m now proposing this wording....
* VillainHasAPoint: Zig-zagged. After Raya defeats Namaari, the creative team tries to invoke this trope when Namaari says \\\"I don\\\'t care if you believe me. Sisu did. But you didn\\\'t trust her. That\\\'s why we\\\'re here. Do whatever you want. But you\\\'re as much to blame for Sisu\\\'s death as I am\\\". Unfortunately, the scene where Sisu is shot does not validate Namaari\\\'s accusation. When Namaari draws her cross-bow, Raya moves to respond but is stopped by Sisu who says \\\"I got this\\\" and Raya stands down removing her hand from her sword. Although Sisu has gotten in trouble before by trusting the wrong person, Raya is willing to let her try. She watches cautiously but doesn\\\'t take any action until she sees Namaari\\\'s finger actually pulling on the trigger and only then does Raya lash out with her whip-sword making it hard to say that she didn\\\'t trust Sisu or jumped the gun with her defensive action.
Namaari\\\'s \\\"\\\"you\\\'re as much to blame\\\" scene appears to be Disney really wanting to invoke the VillainHasAPoint trope for that scene. Raya even has a shocked face when Namaari delivers the line followed by a meaningful look at her reflection in her sword implying that the words have struck a chord in her.
However, the visuals in the \\\"Sisu is shot\\\" scene just don\\\'t support Namaari\\\'s accusation making her points come across as accusations and shifting blame.
Technically, this would mean the trope never really comes into play. Yet it\\\'s obvious Disney wanted to the trope to be in play but kinda failed to support the Villain. This would imply the trope is either \\\"inverted\\\" or \\\"zig-zagged\\\" in terms of its presentation.
Since the two scenes are so conflicted, I\\\'d lean with \\\"zig-zagged\\\" because the trope is kinda all over the place. Therefore, I\\\'m now proposing this wording....
* VillainHasAPoint: Zig-zagged. After Raya defeats Namaari, the creative team tries to invoke this trope when Namaari says \\\"I don\\\'t care if you believe me. Sisu did. But you didn\\\'t trust her. That\\\'s why we\\\'re here. Do whatever you want. But you\\\'re as much to blame for Sisu\\\'s death as I am\\\". Unfortunately, the scene where Sisu is shot does not validate Namaari\\\'s accusation. When Namaari draws her cross-bow, Raya moves to respond but is stopped by Sisu who says \\\"I got this\\\" and Raya stands down removing her hand from her sword. Although Sisu has gotten in trouble before by trusting the wrong person, Raya is willing to let her try. She watches cautiously but doesn\\\'t take any action until she sees Namaari\\\'s finger actually pulling on the trigger and only then does Raya lash out with her whip-sword making it hard to say that she didn\\\'t trust Sisu or jumped the gun with her defensive action.
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In going through all the various threads on ATT and \
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In going through all the various threads on ATT and \\\"Is this an example\\\", it\\\'s becoming clear to me that there\\\'s an odd situation in this movie.
Namaari\\\'s \\\"\\\"you\\\'re as much to blame\\\" scene appears to be Disney really wanting to invoke the VillainHasAPoint trope for that scene. Raya even has a shocked face when Namaari delivers the line followed by a meaningful look at her reflection in her sword implying that the words have struck a chord in her.
However, the visuals in the \\\"Sisu is shot\\\" scene just don\\\'t support Namaari\\\'s accusation making her points come across as accusations and shifting blame.
Technically, this would mean the trope never really comes into play. Yet it\\\'s obvious Disney wanted to the trope to be in play but kinda failed to support the Villain. This would imply the trope is either \\\"inverted\\\" or \\\"zig-zagged\\\" in terms of its presentation.
Since the two scenes are so conflicted, I\\\'d lean with \\\"zig-zagged\\\" because the trope is kinda all over the place. Therefore, I\\\'m now proposing this wording....
* VillainHasAPoint: Zig-zagged. After Raya defeats Namaari, the creative team tries to invoke this trope when Namaari says \\\"I don\\\'t care if you believe me. Sisu did. But you didn\\\'t trust her. That\\\'s why we\\\'re here. Do whatever you want. But you\\\'re as much to blame for Sisu\\\'s death as I am\\\". Unfortunately, the scene where Sisu is shot undermines Namaari\\\'s accusation. When Namaari draws her cross-bow, Raya moves to respond but is stopped by Sisu who says \\\"I got this\\\" and Raya stands down removing her hand from her sword. Although Sisu has gotten in trouble before by trusting the wrong person, Raya is willing to let her try. She watches cautiously but doesn\\\'t take any action until she sees Namaari\\\'s finger actually pulling on the trigger and only then does Raya lash out with her whip-sword making it hard to say that she didn\\\'t trust Sisu or jumped the gun with her defensive action.
Namaari\\\'s \\\"\\\"you\\\'re as much to blame\\\" scene appears to be Disney really wanting to invoke the VillainHasAPoint trope for that scene. Raya even has a shocked face when Namaari delivers the line followed by a meaningful look at her reflection in her sword implying that the words have struck a chord in her.
However, the visuals in the \\\"Sisu is shot\\\" scene just don\\\'t support Namaari\\\'s accusation making her points come across as accusations and shifting blame.
Technically, this would mean the trope never really comes into play. Yet it\\\'s obvious Disney wanted to the trope to be in play but kinda failed to support the Villain. This would imply the trope is either \\\"inverted\\\" or \\\"zig-zagged\\\" in terms of its presentation.
Since the two scenes are so conflicted, I\\\'d lean with \\\"zig-zagged\\\" because the trope is kinda all over the place. Therefore, I\\\'m now proposing this wording....
* VillainHasAPoint: Zig-zagged. After Raya defeats Namaari, the creative team tries to invoke this trope when Namaari says \\\"I don\\\'t care if you believe me. Sisu did. But you didn\\\'t trust her. That\\\'s why we\\\'re here. Do whatever you want. But you\\\'re as much to blame for Sisu\\\'s death as I am\\\". Unfortunately, the scene where Sisu is shot undermines Namaari\\\'s accusation. When Namaari draws her cross-bow, Raya moves to respond but is stopped by Sisu who says \\\"I got this\\\" and Raya stands down removing her hand from her sword. Although Sisu has gotten in trouble before by trusting the wrong person, Raya is willing to let her try. She watches cautiously but doesn\\\'t take any action until she sees Namaari\\\'s finger actually pulling on the trigger and only then does Raya lash out with her whip-sword making it hard to say that she didn\\\'t trust Sisu or jumped the gun with her defensive action.
Changed line(s) 1 from:
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In going through all the various threads on ATT and \
to:
In going through all the various threads on ATT and \\\"Is this an example\\\", it\\\'s becoming clear to me that there\\\'s an odd situation in this movie.
Namaari\\\'s \\\"\\\"you\\\'re as much to blame\\\" scene appears to be Disney really wanting to invoke the VillainHasAPoint trope for that scene. Raya even has a shocked face when Namaari delivers the line followed by a meaningful look at her reflection in her sword implying that the words have struck a chord in her.
However, the visuals in the \\\"Sisu is shot\\\" scene just don\\\'t support Namaari\\\'s accusation making her points come across as accusations and shifting blame.
Technically, this would mean the trope never really comes into play. Yet it\\\'s obvious Disney wanted to the trope to be in play but kinda failed to support the Villain. This would imply the trope is either \\\"inverted\\\" or \\\"zig-zagged\\\" in terms of its presentation.
Since the two scenes are so conflicted, I\\\'d lean with \\\"zig-zagged\\\" because the trope is kinda all over the place. Therefore, I\\\'m now proposing this wording....
* VillainHasAPoint: Zig-zagged. After Raya defeats Namaari, it seems the creative team tries to invoke the trope by having Namaari say \\\"I never meant for any of this to happen... I don\\\'t care if you believe me. Sisu did. But you didn\\\'t trust her. That\\\'s why we\\\'re here. Do whatever you want. But you\\\'re as much to blame for Sisu\\\'s death as I am\\\". Unfortunately, the companion scene where Sisu is shot, shows details that undermine Namaari\\\'s accusation. When Namaari draws her cross-bow, Raya starts to respond but is stopped by Sisu who says \\\"I got this\\\" and Raya stands down removing her hand from her sword hilt. Although Sisu has gotten in trouble by trusting the wrong person before, Raya trusts Sisu enough to let her try. Raya watches cautiously but doesn\\\'t take any action until she sees Namaari\\\'s finger actually pulling on the trigger and only then Raya does lash out with her whip-sword making it hard to justify that she jumped the gun with her defensive action.
Namaari\\\'s \\\"\\\"you\\\'re as much to blame\\\" scene appears to be Disney really wanting to invoke the VillainHasAPoint trope for that scene. Raya even has a shocked face when Namaari delivers the line followed by a meaningful look at her reflection in her sword implying that the words have struck a chord in her.
However, the visuals in the \\\"Sisu is shot\\\" scene just don\\\'t support Namaari\\\'s accusation making her points come across as accusations and shifting blame.
Technically, this would mean the trope never really comes into play. Yet it\\\'s obvious Disney wanted to the trope to be in play but kinda failed to support the Villain. This would imply the trope is either \\\"inverted\\\" or \\\"zig-zagged\\\" in terms of its presentation.
Since the two scenes are so conflicted, I\\\'d lean with \\\"zig-zagged\\\" because the trope is kinda all over the place. Therefore, I\\\'m now proposing this wording....
* VillainHasAPoint: Zig-zagged. After Raya defeats Namaari, it seems the creative team tries to invoke the trope by having Namaari say \\\"I never meant for any of this to happen... I don\\\'t care if you believe me. Sisu did. But you didn\\\'t trust her. That\\\'s why we\\\'re here. Do whatever you want. But you\\\'re as much to blame for Sisu\\\'s death as I am\\\". Unfortunately, the companion scene where Sisu is shot, shows details that undermine Namaari\\\'s accusation. When Namaari draws her cross-bow, Raya starts to respond but is stopped by Sisu who says \\\"I got this\\\" and Raya stands down removing her hand from her sword hilt. Although Sisu has gotten in trouble by trusting the wrong person before, Raya trusts Sisu enough to let her try. Raya watches cautiously but doesn\\\'t take any action until she sees Namaari\\\'s finger actually pulling on the trigger and only then Raya does lash out with her whip-sword making it hard to justify that she jumped the gun with her defensive action.
