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There\'s nothing wrong with outlining multiple sins for a villain provided that they demonstrate the sin as a consistent part of their character. Otherwise you are cherry-picking examples (or as annette12 calls it \
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There\\\'s nothing wrong with outlining multiple sins for a villain provided that they demonstrate the sin as a consistent part of their character. Otherwise you are cherry-picking examples (or as annette12 calls it \\\"shoehorning\\\") and it\\\'s just like the case of saying Belle demonstrates Wrath when she yells at the Beast, which is technically true, but not especially helpful as it doesn\\\'t fully define her overall character. It\\\'s just a moment where she\\\'s frustrated and angry at the Beast and snaps at him. Did she demonstrate Wrath... yes. Is she a wrathful person... not really.
Regarding Gaston. I think it\\\'s accepted here that Pride is his primary sin and defining character flaw. I think you can build a justifiable case that there is Envy at play and possibly Wrath.
However, Lust, Greed, Sloth and Gluttony just aren\\\'t. The current examples take a behavior of Gaston and say that it\\\'s an example of Sin X. Except that in these cases, there are other sins that could motivate the same behavior.
As I stated before, Gaston\\\'s fixation on Belle that\\\'s used to justify Lust and Greed, is not based on a desire for pleasure or a desire for things. It\\\'s a desire for a very specific thing... Belle. Gaston is a hunter, Belle is his prey. Gaston never fails to bring down his prey and make them a trophy. For Belle to resist hurts his ego and pride and he will triumph over her... whatever it takes.
Gluttony is the desire for excess which is being cast here as selfishness even though nothing on the tvtropes page encourages such a redefinition. But let\\\'s go with it... Is Gaston\\\'s selfishness driven by a desire to have, to consume, to not share (which leans toward gluttony), or is it driven by Gaston\\\'s statement \\\"She\\\'s the most beautiful girl in town so that makes her the best... and don\\\'t I deserve the best?\\\" (which leans toward ego and pride). Given how Gaston acts throughout the story, it really is ego and pride.
Sloth is the desire for rest (or to not put forth any more effort than needed). When Belle calls him \\\"positively primeval\\\" is it indicating that he\\\'s unwilling to put forth the effort to advance himself (ie sloth) or that he sees himself as such a paragon of manhood that there\\\'s no reason to change (ie pride). Regarding the muddy boots is it that he\\\'s too lazy to wipe them clean (ie sloth) or that he\\\'s Gaston who\\\'s visiting Belle, the lucky girl, to bestow upon her the gift of marriage and therefore it never even crosses his mind to wipe his boots (ego/pride).
As I said before, Gaston doesn\\\'t get any bonus villain points for demonstrating all seven sins. So what\\\'s the push to show all seven especially when stretching the point in order to do so?
I can support Pride, Envy, Wrath. I don\\\'t agree with Lust, Greed, Sloth and Gluttony .
Regarding Gaston. I think it\\\'s accepted here that Pride is his primary sin and defining character flaw. I think you can build a justifiable case that there is Envy at play and possibly Wrath.
However, Lust, Greed, Sloth and Gluttony just aren\\\'t. The current examples take a behavior of Gaston and say that it\\\'s an example of Sin X. Except that in these cases, there are other sins that could motivate the same behavior.
As I stated before, Gaston\\\'s fixation on Belle that\\\'s used to justify Lust and Greed, is not based on a desire for pleasure or a desire for things. It\\\'s a desire for a very specific thing... Belle. Gaston is a hunter, Belle is his prey. Gaston never fails to bring down his prey and make them a trophy. For Belle to resist hurts his ego and pride and he will triumph over her... whatever it takes.
Gluttony is the desire for excess which is being cast here as selfishness even though nothing on the tvtropes page encourages such a redefinition. But let\\\'s go with it... Is Gaston\\\'s selfishness driven by a desire to have, to consume, to not share (which leans toward gluttony), or is it driven by Gaston\\\'s statement \\\"She\\\'s the most beautiful girl in town so that makes her the best... and don\\\'t I deserve the best?\\\" (which leans toward ego and pride). Given how Gaston acts throughout the story, it really is ego and pride.
Sloth is the desire for rest (or to not put forth any more effort than needed). When Belle calls him \\\"positively primeval\\\" is it indicating that he\\\'s unwilling to put forth the effort to advance himself (ie sloth) or that he sees himself as such a paragon of manhood that there\\\'s no reason to change (ie pride). Regarding the muddy boots is it that he\\\'s too lazy to wipe them clean (ie sloth) or that he\\\'s Gaston who\\\'s visiting Belle, the lucky girl, to bestow upon her the gift of marriage and therefore it never even crosses his mind to wipe his boots (ego/pride).
As I said before, Gaston doesn\\\'t get any bonus villain points for demonstrating all seven sins. So what\\\'s the push to show all seven especially when stretching the point in order to do so?
I can support Pride, Envy, Wrath. I don\\\'t agree with Lust, Greed, Sloth and Gluttony .
