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Unsung
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* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
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* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* A weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy -- usually wanting to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* A physical resemblance to the Joker even without the clown motif, such as being rail-thin with pointed features or wearing similar clothes (tailored but old-fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain).
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* A weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy -- usually wanting to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* A physical resemblance to the Joker even without the clown motif, such as being rail-thin with pointed features or wearing similar clothes (tailored but old-fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain).
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
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* A clown/comedy/circus/playing card(?) motif, especially for a comic book-style supervillain.
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\'t change no matter how they\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, or only TechnicallyASmile -- with a morbid, sadistic, or generally bizarre sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\'t change no matter how they\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, or only TechnicallyASmile -- with a morbid, sadistic, or generally bizarre sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
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* A clown/comedy/circus/playing card motif, especially for a comic book-style supervillain.
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\\\'t change no matter how they\\\'re really feeling -- which may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, or only TechnicallyASmile -- with a morbid, sadistic, or generally bizarre sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* A weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy -- typically wanting to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* A physical resemblance to the Joker even without the clown motif, such as being rail-thin with pointed features or wearing similar clothes (tailored but old-fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain).
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\\\'t change no matter how they\\\'re really feeling -- which may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, or only TechnicallyASmile -- with a morbid, sadistic, or generally bizarre sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* A weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy -- typically wanting to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* A physical resemblance to the Joker even without the clown motif, such as being rail-thin with pointed features or wearing similar clothes (tailored but old-fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain).
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
Changed line(s) 8 from:
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* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
to:
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* A weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wanting to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* A weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wanting to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
Changed line(s) 8 from:
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* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
to:
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* A weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* A weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
Changed line(s) 7 from:
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* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\'t change no matter how they\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, BrokenSmile, or TheUnSmile -- with a morbid, sadistic, or generally bizarre sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
to:
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\\\'t change no matter how they\\\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, or only TechnicallyASmile -- with a morbid, sadistic, or generally bizarre sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* Has a weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, frequently disturbing even to his own minions or allies, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* Has a weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
Changed line(s) 8 from:
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* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
to:
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* Has a weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* Has a weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
Changed line(s) 8 from:
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* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
to:
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* Has a weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* Has a weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to [[TheCorruptor corrupt them]], humble them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
Changed line(s) 7 from:
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* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\'t change no matter how they\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, BrokenSmile, or TheUnSmile -- with a bizarre, morbid, or sadistic sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \
to:
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\\\'t change no matter how they\\\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, BrokenSmile, or TheUnSmile -- with a morbid, sadistic, or generally bizarre sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* Weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to corrupt them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* Weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to corrupt them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
Changed line(s) 6 from:
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* Clown/comedy/circus/playing card(?) motif, especially for a comic book-style supervillain
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\'t change no matter how they\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, BrokenSmile, or TheUnSmile -- with a bizarre, morbid, or sadistic sense of humor
* Unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly (even if they do have other powers), using themed \
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\'t change no matter how they\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, BrokenSmile, or TheUnSmile -- with a bizarre, morbid, or sadistic sense of humor
* Unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly (even if they do have other powers), using themed \
to:
* A clown/comedy/circus/playing card(?) motif, especially for a comic book-style supervillain.
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\\\'t change no matter how they\\\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, BrokenSmile, or TheUnSmile -- with a bizarre, morbid, or sadistic sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* Weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to corrupt them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\\\'t change no matter how they\\\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, BrokenSmile, or TheUnSmile -- with a bizarre, morbid, or sadistic sense of humor.
* An unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly or using more conventional weapons (even if they do have other powers).
* Weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to corrupt them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\".
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
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* LaughingMad or constantly grinning -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, or a permanent rictus they can\'t change [[TheUnSmile no matter how they\'re really feeling]] -- with a bizarre, morbid, or sadistic sense of humor
* Unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly (even if they do have other powers), using themed \
* Unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly (even if they do have other powers), using themed \
to:
* LaughingMad or constantly grinning, often a permanent rictus they can\\\'t change no matter how they\\\'re really feeling -- may be a SlasherSmile, GlasgowGrin, unnaturally wide CheshireCatGrin, BrokenSmile, or TheUnSmile -- with a bizarre, morbid, or sadistic sense of humor
* Unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly (even if they do have other powers), using themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets rather than more conventional weapons
* Weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to corrupt them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\"
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* Unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly (even if they do have other powers), using themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets rather than more conventional weapons
* Weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to corrupt them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\"
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
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* Clown/comedy/circus/playing card(?) motif
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* Clown/comedy/circus/playing card(?) motif, especially for a comic book-style supervillain
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* Unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly (even if they do have other powers), using themed \
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* Unpredictable Cloudcuckoolander, who may or may not be AxCrazy (committing crimes purely ForTheEvulz) or even particularly evil, but typically relies on a combination of ConfusionFu, tricks and (death-) traps rather than fighting directly (even if they do have other powers), using themed \\\"gag\\\" gadgets rather than more conventional weapons
* Weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to corrupt them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\"
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
* Weird codependent relationship with the hero who is often a Batman expy, usually wants to corrupt them, drive them mad, convince them of their StrawNihilist philosophy, or otherwise \\\"show them how to have fun/be less serious\\\"
* Physically looks like the Joker even without the clown motif, rail-thin with pointed features, similar clothes (tailored clothes but old fashioned or in odd colors, no leotard or PoweredArmor like a more typical supervillain), etc.
I think combining some of the similar/related concepts might help discourage people who aren\\\'t as familiar with the original Joker from cherrypicking certain traits? Like I can see how the DCEU Lex Luthor seems more like the Joker than the Lex we\\\'ve seen elsewhere, similar to how I can see the Tim Burton Penguin and Schumacher Two-Face biting on the Joker\\\'s style (nihilism and circuses), but I do think there could be a line drawn between acting more like the Joker and being a full-on Joker expy.
