Discussion History Heartwarming / GameOfThrones

That said, Lust and Greed really are more reflections of Gaston\\\'s desire for \\\"pride of ownership\\\" over Belle. She\\\'s the trophy he wants and being denied that is what drives him.

Currently Gluttony has been redefined as \\\"selfishness\\\" to make it fit with Gaston but that\\\'s putting one\\\'s own needs and desires above others which, again, is a manifestation of pride. Also the \\\"60 eggs\\\" has again been added to this example even though the story makes it very clear that he eats the eggs to grow large, not because he\\\'s a glutton.

Sloth is defined as refusing to \\\"change his ways out of his own arrogance\\\". That\\\'s the same as saying his own pride prevents him from seeing a reason for him to change. Otherwise, it\\\'s hard to see the strapping, physically-fit, ultimate hunter as demonstrating Sloth.

In any well-presented character you can go through their story and cherry-pick scenes or lines that show them exhibiting at least one of the sins but to what value? Most of the time those examples don\\\'t fully define their overall character they\\\'re just moments where the character shows that they are human.

For that matter, why stop just at Gaston? Most of the other character could have entries as well. Cogsworth with his stuffy, overbearing attitude also embodies Pride, Lumiere has a healthy showing of Lust with the feather duster, Mrs. Potts and the kitchen Chef both display a willingness to promote Gluttony given the huge amounts of food and drink on dumped on Belle during \\\"Be Our Guest\\\", [=LeFou\\\'s=] rotund appearance also signals Gluttony, Monsieur D\\\'Argue\\\'s Greed is more important than his sense of justice and Belle herself even gives into Wrath when she yells at Beast for making her a prisoner.

So I ask, what is the value of trying to list Gaston showing all Seven Sins when only a few really define his character especially when some of the examples even admit that it\\\'s downplayed? He doesn\\\'t get bonus villain points for demonstrating all seven.

That said, Lust and Greed really are more reflections of Gaston\\\'s desire for \\\"pride of ownership\\\" over Belle. She\\\'s the trophy he wants and being denied that is what drives him.

Currently Gluttony has been redefined as \\\"selfishness\\\" to make it fit with Gaston and again the \\\"60 eggs\\\" has been added to this example even though the story makes it very clear that he eats the eggs to grow large, not because he\\\'s a glutton.

Sloth is defined as refusing to \\\"change his ways out of his own arrogance\\\". That\\\'s the same as saying his own pride prevents him from seeing a reason for him to change. Otherwise, it\\\'s hard to see the strapping, physically-fit, ultimate hunter as demonstrating Sloth.

In any well-presented character you can go through their story and cherry-pick scenes or lines that show them exhibiting at least one of the sins but to what value? Most of the time those examples don\\\'t fully define their overall character they\\\'re just moments where the character shows that they are human.

For that matter, why stop just at Gaston? Most of the other character could have entries as well. Cogsworth with his stuffy, overbearing attitude also embodies Pride, Lumiere has a healthy showing of Lust with the feather duster, Mrs. Potts and the kitchen Chef both display a willingness to promote Gluttony given the huge amounts of food and drink on dumped on Belle during \\\"Be Our Guest\\\", [=LeFou\\\'s=] rotund appearance also signals Gluttony, Monsieur D\\\'Argue\\\'s Greed is more important than his sense of justice and Belle herself even gives into Wrath when she yells at Beast for making her a prisoner.

So I ask, what is the value of trying to list Gaston showing all Seven Sins when only a few really define his character especially when some of the examples even admit that it\\\'s downplayed? He doesn\\\'t get bonus villain points for demonstrating all seven.

That said, Lust and Greed really are more reflections of Gaston\\\'s desire for \\\"pride of ownership\\\" over Belle. She\\\'s the trophy he wants and being denied that is what drives him.

Currently Gluttony has been redefined as \\\"selfishness\\\" to make it fit with Gaston and again the \\\"60 eggs\\\" has been added to this example even though the story makes it very clear that he eats the eggs to grow large, not because he\\\'s a glutton.

Sloth is defined as refusing to \\\"change his ways out of his own arrogance\\\". That\\\'s the same as saying his own pride prevents him from seeing a reason for him to change. Otherwise, it\\\'s hard to see the strapping, physically-fit, ultimate hunter as demonstrating Sloth.

In any well-presented character you can go through their story and cherry-pick scenes or lines that show them exhibiting at least one of the sins but to what value? Most of the time those examples don\\\'t fully define their overall character they\\\'re just moments where the character shows that they are human.

For that matter, why stop just at Gaston? Most of the other character could have entries as well. Cogsworth with his stuffy, overbearing attitude also embodies Pride, Lumiere has a healthy showing of Lust with the feather duster, Mrs. Potts and the kitchen Chef both display a willingness to promote Gluttony given the huge amounts of food and drink on dumped on Belle during \\\"Be Our Guest\\\", [=LeFou\\\'s=] rotund appearance also signals Gluttony, Monsieur D\\\'Argue\\\'s Greed is more important than his sense of justice and Belle herself even gives into Wrath when she yells at Beast for making her a prisoner.

So I ask, what is the value of trying to list Gaston showing all Seven Sins when only a few really define his character? He doesn\\\'t get bonus villain points for demonstrating all seven.

That said, Lust and Greed really are more reflections of Gaston\\\'s desire for \\\"pride of ownership\\\" over Belle. She\\\'s the trophy he wants and being denied that is what drives him.

Currently Gluttony has been redefined as \\\"selfishness\\\" to make it fit with Gaston and again the \\\"60 eggs\\\" has been added to this example even though the story makes it very clear that he eats the eggs to grow large, not because he\\\'s a glutton.

Sloth is defined as refusing to \\\"change his ways out of his own arrogance\\\". That\\\'s the same as saying his own pride prevents him from seeing a reason for him to change. Otherwise, it\\\'s hard to see the strapping, physically-fit, ultimate hunter as demonstrating Sloth.

In any well-presented character you can go through their story and cherry-pick scenes or lines that show them exhibiting at least one of the sins but to what value? Most of the time those examples don\\\'t fully define their overall character they\\\'re just moments where the character shows that they are human.

For that matter, why stop just at Gaston? Most of the other character could have entries as well. Cogsworth with his stuffy, overbearing attitude also embodies Pride, Lumiere has a healthy showing of Lust with the featherduster, Mrs. Potts and the kitchen Chef both display a willingness to promote Gluttony given the huge amounts of food and drink on dumped on Belle during \\\"Be Our Guest\\\", LeFou\\\'s rotund appearance also signals Gluttony, Monsieur D\\\'Argue\\\'s Greed is more important than his sense of justice and Belle herself even gives into Wrath when she yells at Beast for making her a prisoner.

So I ask, what is the value of trying to list Gaston showing all Seven Sins when only a few really define his character? He doesn\\\'t get bonus villain points for demonstrating all seven.

Recently there seems to be a fixation on making sure that Gaston demonstrates all seven sins which isn\\\'t making much sense. Gaston\\\'s primary sin is that of Pride and if you step back and look at the narrative beats, it\\\'s really Pride that drives almost all of his actions in the film. The other sins are generally reflected in a single scene or in a line or two and, if we\\\'re honest, don\\\'t really define his overall character.