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My thoughts...
I don\'t like cast credit order, it\'s too hinged on the character having a voice actor and a name, it\'s incomplete and the order logic is undefined and some characters aren\'t named properly in the credits (like Major Friedkin and Larry who was named after the movie was released). Plus this is tvtropes not IMDB.
In terms of \"order of appearance\":
Cotton first appears at Judy\'s graduation. So after Lionheart/Bellwether
In pure appearance order, Doug appears just before Jerry Jumbeaux Jr as he\'s driving the truck that almost hits Nick. He\'s also at the press conference. Both are long before his appearance at the subway car.
Mr. Otterton appears in photo form right after Mrs. Otterton, but in physical form after the Cliffside Wolves.
Personally, I don\'t see the value in saying we ordered the list by XXX, and then have a bunch of exceptions for things like it not making sense to separate the tigers from gazelle or putting Mr.Big before Raymond/Kevin or the minor characters at the end.
If we\'re going to group things by subjective aesthetic sensibilities, then let\'s just agree to do it that way from the start. Let\'s remove the \"Zootopia\"/\"Bunnyburrow\" headings, tweak the current list as it seems appropriate, and just have the new heading say \"Supporting Cast\" and not say it\'s ordered by XXX, if we\'re not going to follow that ordering rule.
EDIT: It feels like the basic consensus I\'m getting from these comments is to put major characters more towards the top of the list, really minor characters towards the bottom of the list, and wanting to group characters that have a connecting theme together (ie all Mr. Big characters, all ZPD, keep the Ottertons together, keep Gazelle/Tigers together, keep Judy\'s friends together, etc.) But aesthetic grouping seems to be the guiding principle rather that pure objective rules.
I don\'t like cast credit order, it\'s too hinged on the character having a voice actor and a name, it\'s incomplete and the order logic is undefined and some characters aren\'t named properly in the credits (like Major Friedkin and Larry who was named after the movie was released). Plus this is tvtropes not IMDB.
In terms of \"order of appearance\":
Cotton first appears at Judy\'s graduation. So after Lionheart/Bellwether
In pure appearance order, Doug appears just before Jerry Jumbeaux Jr as he\'s driving the truck that almost hits Nick. He\'s also at the press conference. Both are long before his appearance at the subway car.
Mr. Otterton appears in photo form right after Mrs. Otterton, but in physical form after the Cliffside Wolves.
Personally, I don\'t see the value in saying we ordered the list by XXX, and then have a bunch of exceptions for things like it not making sense to separate the tigers from gazelle or putting Mr.Big before Raymond/Kevin or the minor characters at the end.
If we\'re going to group things by subjective aesthetic sensibilities, then let\'s just agree to do it that way from the start. Let\'s remove the \"Zootopia\"/\"Bunnyburrow\" headings, tweak the current list as it seems appropriate, and just have the new heading say \"Supporting Cast\" and not say it\'s ordered by XXX, if we\'re not going to follow that ordering rule.
EDIT: It feels like the basic consensus I\'m getting from these comments is to put major characters more towards the top of the list, really minor characters towards the bottom of the list, and wanting to group characters that have a connecting theme together (ie all Mr. Big characters, all ZPD, keep the Ottertons together, keep Gazelle/Tigers together, keep Judy\'s friends together, etc.) But aesthetic grouping seems to be the guiding principle rather that pure objective rules.
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My thoughts...
I don\'t like cast credit order, it\'s too hinged on the character having a voice actor and a name, it\'s incomplete and the order logic is undefined and some characters aren\'t named properly in the credits (like Major Friedkin and Larry who was named after the movie was released)
In terms of \"order of appearance\":
Cotton first appears at Judy\'s graduation. So after Lionheart/Bellwether
In pure appearance order, Doug appears just before Jerry Jumbeaux Jr as he\'s driving the truck that almost hits Nick. He\'s also at the press conference. Both are long before his appearance at the subway car.
Mr. Otterton appears in photo form right after Mrs. Otterton, but in physical form after the Cliffside Wolves.
Personally, I don\'t see the value in saying we ordered the list by XXX, and then have a bunch of exceptions for things like it not making sense to separate the tigers from gazelle or putting Mr.Big before Raymond/Kevin or the minor characters at the end.
If we\'re going to group things by subjective aesthetic sensibilities, then let\'s just agree to do it that way from the start. Let\'s remove the \"Zootopia\"/\"Bunnyburrow\" headings, tweak the current list as it seems appropriate, and just have the new heading say \"Supporting Cast\" and not say it\'s ordered by XXX, if we\'re not going to follow that ordering rule.
EDIT: It feels like the basic consensus I\'m getting from these comments is to put major characters more towards the top of the list, really minor characters towards the bottom of the list, and wanting to group characters that have a connecting theme together (ie all Mr. Big characters, all ZPD, keep the Ottertons together, keep Gazelle/Tigers together, keep Judy\'s friends together, etc.) But aesthetic grouping seems to be the guiding principle rather that pure objective rules.
I don\'t like cast credit order, it\'s too hinged on the character having a voice actor and a name, it\'s incomplete and the order logic is undefined and some characters aren\'t named properly in the credits (like Major Friedkin and Larry who was named after the movie was released)
In terms of \"order of appearance\":
Cotton first appears at Judy\'s graduation. So after Lionheart/Bellwether
In pure appearance order, Doug appears just before Jerry Jumbeaux Jr as he\'s driving the truck that almost hits Nick. He\'s also at the press conference. Both are long before his appearance at the subway car.
Mr. Otterton appears in photo form right after Mrs. Otterton, but in physical form after the Cliffside Wolves.
Personally, I don\'t see the value in saying we ordered the list by XXX, and then have a bunch of exceptions for things like it not making sense to separate the tigers from gazelle or putting Mr.Big before Raymond/Kevin or the minor characters at the end.
If we\'re going to group things by subjective aesthetic sensibilities, then let\'s just agree to do it that way from the start. Let\'s remove the \"Zootopia\"/\"Bunnyburrow\" headings, tweak the current list as it seems appropriate, and just have the new heading say \"Supporting Cast\" and not say it\'s ordered by XXX, if we\'re not going to follow that ordering rule.
EDIT: It feels like the basic consensus I\'m getting from these comments is to put major characters more towards the top of the list, really minor characters towards the bottom of the list, and wanting to group characters that have a connecting theme together (ie all Mr. Big characters, all ZPD, keep the Ottertons together, keep Gazelle/Tigers together, keep Judy\'s friends together, etc.) But aesthetic grouping seems to be the guiding principle rather that pure objective rules.
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My thoughts...
I don\'t like cast credit order, it\'s too hinged on the character having a voice actor and a name, it\'s incomplete and the order logic is undefined and some characters aren\'t named properly in the credits (like Major Friedkin and Larry who was named after the movie was released)
In terms of \"order of appearance\":
Cotton first appears at Judy\'s graduation. So after Lionheart/Bellwether
In pure appearance order, Doug appears just before Jerry Jumbeaux Jr as he\'s driving the truck that almost hits Nick. He\'s also at the press conference. Both are long before his appearance at the subway car.
Mr. Otterton appears in photo form right after Mrs. Otterton, but in physical form after the Cliffside Wolves.
Personally, I don\'t see the value in saying we ordered the list by XXX, and then have a bunch of exceptions for things like it not making sense to separate the tigers from gazelle or putting Mr.Big before Raymond/Kevin or the minor characters at the end.
If we\'re going to group things by subjective aesthetic sensibilities, then let\'s just agree to do it that way from the start. Let\'s remove the \"Zootopia\"/\"Bunnyburrow\" headings, tweak the current list as it seems appropriate, and just have the new heading say \"Supporting Cast\" and not say it\'s ordered by XXX, if we\'re not going to follow that ordering rule.
I don\'t like cast credit order, it\'s too hinged on the character having a voice actor and a name, it\'s incomplete and the order logic is undefined and some characters aren\'t named properly in the credits (like Major Friedkin and Larry who was named after the movie was released)
In terms of \"order of appearance\":
Cotton first appears at Judy\'s graduation. So after Lionheart/Bellwether
In pure appearance order, Doug appears just before Jerry Jumbeaux Jr as he\'s driving the truck that almost hits Nick. He\'s also at the press conference. Both are long before his appearance at the subway car.
Mr. Otterton appears in photo form right after Mrs. Otterton, but in physical form after the Cliffside Wolves.
Personally, I don\'t see the value in saying we ordered the list by XXX, and then have a bunch of exceptions for things like it not making sense to separate the tigers from gazelle or putting Mr.Big before Raymond/Kevin or the minor characters at the end.
If we\'re going to group things by subjective aesthetic sensibilities, then let\'s just agree to do it that way from the start. Let\'s remove the \"Zootopia\"/\"Bunnyburrow\" headings, tweak the current list as it seems appropriate, and just have the new heading say \"Supporting Cast\" and not say it\'s ordered by XXX, if we\'re not going to follow that ordering rule.
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My thoughts...
I don\'t like cast credit order, it\'s too hinged on the character having a voice actor and a name, it\'s incomplete and the order logic is undefined and some characters aren\'t named properly in the credits (like Major Friedkin and Larry who was named after the fact)
In terms of \"order of appearance\":
Cotton first appears at Judy\'s graduation. So after Lionheart/Bellwether
In pure appearance order, Doug appears just before Jerry Jumbeaux Jr as he\'s driving the truck that almost hits Nick. He\'s also at the press conference. Both are long before his appearance at the subway car.
Mr. Otterton appears in photo form right after Mrs. Otterton, but in physical form after the Cliffside Wolves.
Personally, I don\'t see the value in saying we ordered the list by XXX, and then have a bunch of exceptions for things like it not making sense to separate the tigers from gazelle or putting Mr.Big before Raymond/Kevin or the minor characters at the end.
If we\'re going to group things by subjective aesthetic sensibilities, then let\'s just agree to do it that way from the start. Let\'s remove the \"Zootopia\"/\"Bunnyburrow\" headings, tweak the current list as it seems appropriate, and just have the new heading say \"Supporting Cast\" and not say it\'s ordered by XXX, if we\'re not going to follow that ordering rule.
I don\'t like cast credit order, it\'s too hinged on the character having a voice actor and a name, it\'s incomplete and the order logic is undefined and some characters aren\'t named properly in the credits (like Major Friedkin and Larry who was named after the fact)
In terms of \"order of appearance\":
Cotton first appears at Judy\'s graduation. So after Lionheart/Bellwether
In pure appearance order, Doug appears just before Jerry Jumbeaux Jr as he\'s driving the truck that almost hits Nick. He\'s also at the press conference. Both are long before his appearance at the subway car.
Mr. Otterton appears in photo form right after Mrs. Otterton, but in physical form after the Cliffside Wolves.
Personally, I don\'t see the value in saying we ordered the list by XXX, and then have a bunch of exceptions for things like it not making sense to separate the tigers from gazelle or putting Mr.Big before Raymond/Kevin or the minor characters at the end.
If we\'re going to group things by subjective aesthetic sensibilities, then let\'s just agree to do it that way from the start. Let\'s remove the \"Zootopia\"/\"Bunnyburrow\" headings, tweak the current list as it seems appropriate, and just have the new heading say \"Supporting Cast\" and not say it\'s ordered by XXX, if we\'re not going to follow that ordering rule.
