I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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She may not have used the
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She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
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\'\'\'EDIT:\'\'\' Another thing that may be relevant, is that not only did Nick get offended when Judy parroted out a slightly exaggerated version of Dr. Badger\'s theory at the press conference, but there\'s a [[FreezeFrameBonus blink-and-you\'ll-miss-it shot]] of Nick and Judy\'s facial expressions when overhearing Dr. Badger\'s theory for the first time. While Judy\'s face screamed \"Oh, that explains everything!\", Nick\'s face was more like \"What the hell?\".
So, in-universe, Nick found Dr. Badger\'s idea to be offensive even in the clinical way she herself phrased it originally, not just Judy\'s version. This sort of seems like a (not necessarily conclusive) point in favor of the example being valid to some extent.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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She may not have used the
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She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
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\'\'\'EDIT:\'\'\' Another thing that may be relevant, is that not only did Nick get offended when Judy parroted out a slightly exaggerated version of Dr. Badger\'s theory at the press conference, but there\'s a [[FreezeFrameBonus blink-and-you\'ll-miss-it shot]] of Nick and Judy\'s facial expressions when overhearing Dr. Badger\'s theory for the first time. While Judy\'s face screamed \"Oh, that explains everything!\", Nick\'s face was more like \"What the hell?\".
So, in-universe, Nick found Dr. Badger\'s idea to be offensive even in the clinical way she herself phrased it originally, not just Judy\'s version. This sort of seems like a (not necessarily conclusive) point in favor of the example being valid.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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She may not have used the
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She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
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\'\'\'EDIT:\'\'\' Another thing that may be relevant, is that not only did Nick get offended when Judy parroted out a slightly exaggerated version of Dr. Badger\'s theory at the press conference, but there\'s a [[FreezeFrameBonus blink-and-you\'ll-miss-it shot]] of Nick and Judy\'s facial expressions when overhearing Dr. Badger\'s theory for the first time. While Judy\'s face screamed \"Oh, that explains everything!\", Nick\'s face was more like \"What the hell?!?\".
So, in-universe, Nick found Dr. Badger\'s idea to be offensive even in the clinical way she herself phrased it originally, not just Judy\'s version. This sort of seems like a (not necessarily conclusive) point in favor of the example being valid.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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She may not have used the
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She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
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\'\'\'EDIT:\'\'\' Another thing that may be relevant, is that not only did Nick get offended when Judy parroted out a slightly exaggerated version of Dr. Badger\'s theory at the press conference, but there\'s a [[FreezeFrameBonus blink-and-you\'ll-miss-it shot]] of Nick and Judy\'s facial expressions when overhearing Dr. Badger\'s theory for the first time. While Judy\'s face screamed \"Oh, that explains everything!\", Nick\'s face was more like \"What the hell?!?\".
So, in-universe, Nick found Dr. Badger\'s idea to be offensive even in the clinical way she herself phrased it originally, not just Judy\'s version. This sort of seems like a point in favor of the example being valid, though not necessarily conclusive.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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She may not have used the
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She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
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\'\'\'EDIT:\'\'\' Another thing that may be relevant, is that not only did Nick get offended when Judy parroted out a slightly exaggerated version of Dr. Badger\'s theory at the press conference, but there\'s a [[FreezeFrameBonus blink-and-you\'ll-miss-it shot]] of Nick and Judy\'s facial expressions when overhearing Dr. Badger\'s theory for the first time. While Judy\'s face screamed \"Oh, that explains everything!\", Nick\'s face was more like \"What the hell?!?\".
So, in-universe, Nick found Dr. Badger\'s idea to be offensive even in the clinical way she herself phrased it originally, not just Judy\'s version. Not sure what the implications of this are for the example, but I thought it seemed relevant.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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She may not have used the
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She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
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\'\'\'EDIT:\'\'\' Another thing that may be relevant, is that not only did Nick get offended when Judy parroted out a slightly exaggerated version of Dr. Badger\'s theory at the press conference, but there\'s a [[FreezeFrameBonus blink-and-you\'ll-miss-it shot]] of Nick and Judy\'s facial expressions when overhearing Dr. Badger\'s theory for the first time. While Judy\'s face screamed \"Oh, that explains everything!\", Nick\'s face was more like \"What the hell?!?\".
So, in-universe, Nick found Dr. Badger\'s idea to be offensive even in the clinical way she herself phrased it, not just Judy\'s version. Not sure what the implications of this are for the example, but I thought it seemed relevant.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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She may not have used the
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She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
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\'\'\'EDIT:\'\'\' Another thing that may be relevant, is that not only did Nick get offended when Judy parroted out a slightly exaggerated version of Dr. Badger\'s theory at the press conference, but there\'s a [[FreezeFrameBonus blink-and-you\'ll-miss-it shot]] of Nick and Judy\'s facial expressions when overhearing Dr. Badger\'s theory for the first time. While Judy\'s face screamed \"Oh, that explains everything!\", Nick\'s face was more like \"What the hell?!?\".
So, in-universe, Nick found Dr. Badger\'s idea to be offensive. Not sure what the implications of this are for the example, but I thought it seemed relevant.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
\'\'\'EDIT:\'\'\' Another thing that may be relevant, is that not only did Nick get offended when Judy parroted out a slightly exaggerated version of Dr. Badger\'s theory at the press conference, but there\'s a [[FreezeFrameBonus blink-and-you\'ll-miss-it shot]] of Nick and Judy\'s facial expressions when overhearing Dr. Badger\'s theory. While Judy\'s face screamed \"Oh, that explains everything!\", Nick\'s face was more like \"What the hell?!?\".
So, in-universe, Nick found Dr. Badger\'s idea to be offensive. Not sure what the implications of this are for the example, but I thought it seemed relevant.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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Her attitude was entirely one of fear/worry, and not at all one of hate/resentment. Whether she qualifies as an example at all, even a very {{Downplayed}} one, depends on how you interpret the definition of BoomerangBigot. If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
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Her attitude was entirely one of fear/worry, and not at all one of hate/resentment. Whether she qualifies as an example at all, even a very {{Downplayed}} one, depends on how you interpret the definition of BoomerangBigot.
If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
She may not have used the \"revert to their primitive savage ways\" phrasing that Judy used, but her theory still did suggest she may have bought into in the concept of early predators having been violent savages, and suspected that the symptoms she was seeing could have been related to that by means of some dormant gene that was suddenly being expressed again for some unknown reason. So the questions to consider are:
\'\'\'A)\'\'\' Is this too ambiguous for a main page/character sheet trope example? After all, it\'s hard to extrapolate her views with any certainty from the one scene she was in.
\'\'\'B)\'\'\' Does this even fit the definition of the trope?
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
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Her attitude was entirely one of fear/worry, and not at all one of hate/resentment. Whether she qualifies as an example at all, even a very {{Downplayed}} one, depends on how you interpret the definition of BoomerangBigot. If ''hate'' is a required criteria, then she doesn't fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may just barely fit.
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Her attitude was entirely one of fear/worry, and not at all one of hate/resentment. Whether she qualifies as an example at all, even a very {{Downplayed}} one, depends on how you interpret the definition of BoomerangBigot. If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may indeed fit as a downplayed yet still significant example.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages. Her attitude was entirely one of fear/worry, and not at all one of hate/resentment.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
Her attitude was entirely one of fear/worry, and not at all one of hate/resentment. Whether she qualifies as an example at all, even a very {{Downplayed}} one, depends on how you interpret the definition of BoomerangBigot. If \'\'hate\'\' is a required criteria, then she doesn\'t fit, but if it more broadly includes any kind of racist or otherwise prejudiced ideas, then she may just barely fit.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages. Her attitude was one of fear/worry, not of hate/resentment.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages. Her attitude was entirely one of fear/worry, and not at all one of hate/resentment.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy's pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages. Her attitude was one of fear/worry, not of hate/resentment.
I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don't entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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I for one, am not sure whether or not this example is not to some extent applicable, though I don\'t entirely agree with the current wording. It would be nice to hear [=Macgyver644200=] elaborate further on their reasoning.
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It's ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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It\'s ambiguous enough that it may not belong on a main page or character sheet example, maybe instead under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation under YMMV, but I do have a headcanon that a lot of preds are to some extent ashamed or afraid of their heritage.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn't look so much offended as alarmed, like they were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it's somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators' DNA.
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While we see Nick get very offended, a lot of the predators in the crowd at the press conference didn\'t look so much offended as alarmed, like they took Judy\'s pronouncements at face value and were afraid they too might go savage. And even though Judy took the idea and ran further with it than Dr. Badger had been willing to go, I still think it\'s somewhat telling that she was even willing to suggest that the mysterious affliction might be related to something in the predators\' DNA.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they're all savages.
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And even if this basic idea is accepted, calling Dr. Badger a BoomerangBigot may still be a stretch, to the point that it may be SquarePegRoundTrope rather than merely DownplayedTrope. After all, worrying about the possibility of something latent in predators\' genes is not quite the same as being a bigot who despises them and thinks they\'re all savages.
