I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I'm specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I\'m specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it's a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark's face prominently featured. It's clear that this scene is intended to provide a sufficient justification for Toomes to feel that Stark is fully responsible. But besides that there's no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it\'s a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark\'s face prominently featured. It\'s clear that this scene is intended to provide a sufficient justification for Toomes to feel that Stark is fully responsible. But besides that there\'s no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it's directive was something like
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes\' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it\'s directive was something like \"in the interests of national security, secure all Chitauri cleanup sites at all costs.\"
Therefore, I\'m of the opinion that trying to evaluate Tony Stark\'s personal culpability regarding Damage Control\'s actions, is speculative at best and shouldn\'t be used as the \'\'\'sole justification\'\'\' for any trope examples that involve Tony\'s personal responsibility. There are so many other unambiguous examples of Tony\'s mistakes to continue to focus on this one.
EDIT: I\'m not intending to imply that Tony has no degree of personal culpability, but that trying to evaluate the level of his culpability is speculative.
I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I'm specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I\'m specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it's a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark's face heavily featured. It's clear that this scene is intended to provide a sufficient reason for Toomes to feel that Stark is fully responsible. But besides that there's no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it\'s a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark\'s face prominently featured. It\'s clear that this scene is intended to provide a sufficient justification for Toomes to feel that Stark is fully responsible. But besides that there\'s no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it's directive was something like
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes\' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it\'s directive was something like \"in the interests of national security, secure all Chitauri cleanup sites at all costs.\"
Therefore, I\'m of the opinion that trying to evaluate Tony Stark\'s personal culpability regarding Damage Control\'s actions, is speculative at best and shouldn\'t be used as the \'\'\'sole justification\'\'\' for any trope examples that involve Tony\'s personal responsibility. There are so many other unambiguous examples of Tony\'s mistakes to continue to focus on this one.
I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I'm specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I\'m specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it's a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark's face heavily featured. But besides that there's no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc. It's clear that this scene is intended to provide a sufficient reason for Toomes to feel that Stark is fully responsible.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it\'s a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark\'s face heavily featured. It\'s clear that this scene is intended to provide a sufficient reason for Toomes to feel that Stark is fully responsible. But besides that there\'s no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it's directive was something like
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes\' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it\'s directive was something like \"in the interests of national security, secure all Chitauri cleanup sites at all costs.\"
Therefore, I\'m of the opinion that trying to evaluate Tony Stark\'s personal culpability regarding Damage Control\'s actions, is speculative at best and shouldn\'t be used as the \'\'\'sole justification\'\'\' for any trope examples that involve Tony\'s personal responsibility. There are so many other unambiguous examples of Tony\'s mistakes to continue to focus on this one.
I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I'm specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I\'m specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it's a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark's face heavily featured. But besides that there's no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it\'s a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark\'s face heavily featured. But besides that there\'s no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc. It\'s clear that this scene is intended to provide a sufficient reason for Toomes to feel that Stark is fully responsible.
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it's directive was something like
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes\' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it\'s directive was something like \"in the interests of national security, secure all Chitauri cleanup sites at all costs.\"
Therefore, I\'m of the opinion that trying to evaluate Tony Stark\'s personal culpability regarding Damage Control\'s actions, is speculative at best and shouldn\'t be used as the \'\'\'sole justification\'\'\' for any trope examples that involve Tony\'s personal responsibility. There are so many other unambiguous examples of Tony\'s mistakes to continue to focus on this one.
I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I'm specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I\'m specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it's a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark's face heavily featured. But besides that there's no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it\'s a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark\'s face heavily featured. But besides that there\'s no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it's directive was something like
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes\' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it\'s directive was something like \"in the interests of national security, secure all Chitauri cleanup sites at all costs.\"
Therefore, I\'m of the opinion that trying to evaluate Tony Stark\'s personal culpability regarding Damage Control\'s actions, is speculative at best and shouldn\'t be used as the \'\'\'sole justification\'\'\' for any trope examples that involve Tony\'s personal responsibility. There are so many other unambiguous examples of Tony\'s mistakes to continue to focus on this one.
I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I'm specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I\'m specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it's a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark's face heavily featured. But besides that there's no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it\'s a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark\'s face heavily featured. But besides that there\'s no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it's directive was something like
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes\' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it\'s directive was something like \"in the interests of national security, secure all Chitauri cleanup sites at all costs.\"
Therefore, I\'m of the opinion that trying to evaluate Tony Stark\'s personal culpability regarding Damage Control\'s actions, is speculative at best and shouldn\'t be used as the \'\'\'sole\'\'\' justification for any trope examples that involve Tony\'s personal responsibility. There are so many other unambiguous examples of Tony\'s mistakes to continue to focus on this one.
I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I'm specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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I think it would be helpful to come to a consensus on this issue and I\'m specifically talking about the scene where Damage Control interacts with Toomes thus sparking his FaceHeelTurn.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it's a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark's face heavily featured. But besides that there's no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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My interpretation is this. The movie presents a TV news snipped saying it\'s a joint venture between Stark Industries and the Federal Government with Stark\'s face heavily featured. But besides that there\'s no information about how Damage Control was chartered or what the division of responsibility is between the Federal Government and Stark Industries in terms of who sets the polices, who oversees day-to-day operations, who is accountable, etc.
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures.
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As an added wild-card, Damage Control specifically announces that they are operating under Executive Order 396B with regards to their taking over Toomes\' work site. As we have seen in real life, an Executive Order can supersede and over-ride any existing policies and procedures. Therefore even if there were checks and balances in place that Tony/Stark Industries should have been participating in, the Executive Order could very well have nullified them if it\'s directive was something like \"in the interests of national security, secure all Chitauri cleanup sites at all costs.\"
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Therefore, I'm of the opinion that trying to evaluate Tony Stark's personal culpability regarding Damage Control's actions, is speculative at best and shouldn't be used a justification for any trope examples that involve Tony's personal responsibility. There are so many other unambiguous examples of Tony's mistakes to continue to focus on this one.
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Therefore, I\'m of the opinion that trying to evaluate Tony Stark\'s personal culpability regarding Damage Control\'s actions, is speculative at best and shouldn\'t be used a justification for any trope examples that involve Tony\'s personal responsibility. There are so many other unambiguous examples of Tony\'s mistakes to continue to focus on this one.
