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1. The problem is, if we judge the games by just average tone, then no main series game is DarkerAndEdgier than the other. DP, XY, and BW/B2W2 all had an overall lighthearted tone, but also had their own dark moments, which is why we say DarkerAndEdgier for each. SM is no exception, except even darker.
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1. The problem is, if we judge the games by just average tone, then no main series game is DarkerAndEdgier than the other. DP, XY, and BW / B2W2 all had an overall lighthearted tone, but also had their own dark moments, which is why we say DarkerAndEdgier for each. SM is no exception, except even darker.
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2. The extent of a villain's plans does not matter as much as what impact they have. Lusamine has a more personal impact on main characters than most other villains aside from Ghetsis, and even Ghetsis was evil the entire time, while Lillie indicates that Lusamine was a loving mother before she snapped after Mohn's apparent
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2. The extent of a villain\'s plans does not matter as much as what impact they have. Lusamine has a more personal impact on main characters than most other villains aside from Ghetsis, and even Ghetsis was evil the entire time, while Lillie indicates that Lusamine was a loving mother before she snapped after Mohn\'s apparent \"death\". Not to mention that she \'\'fuses\'\' with Nihilego , becoming an extremely creepy abomination in the process.
And about abusive:
Lillie: \"But...but when you took Null and left Aether Paradise two years ago... you left me alone with Mother! She was so bad after you left! If I hadn’t had Wicke with me...\"
That, when combined with all other evidence in the game, pretty obviously says she that she was not just \"overbearing and forceful\".
3. Agreed. Doesn\'t make them any less terrifying, though.
4. See my previous comments.
5. Agreed, but Lusamine\'s comments and personality work as well.
6. See my previous comments, and Larkmarn\'s.
And \'\'why\'\' are we even debating on this? The majority of people in the fandom definitely agree on this: there are already tons of posts on the Pokemon subreddit on this topic. Check any Youtube video of the Motherbeast Lusamine boss fight and you\'ll have people crying DarkerAndEdgier. Heck, Kotaku ran an [[http://kotaku.com/pokemon-sun-and-moon-pokedex-entries-get-pretty-dark-1788760230 entire article]] on the Pokedex entries shortly after the games were leaked! We can keep discussing how dark the games are when compared to other Pokemon games, but the fact stands: the games \'\'are\'\' DarkerAndEdgier and the entries (aside from Deconstruction) should stay.
And about abusive:
Lillie: \"But...but when you took Null and left Aether Paradise two years ago... you left me alone with Mother! She was so bad after you left! If I hadn’t had Wicke with me...\"
That, when combined with all other evidence in the game, pretty obviously says she that she was not just \"overbearing and forceful\".
3. Agreed. Doesn\'t make them any less terrifying, though.
4. See my previous comments.
5. Agreed, but Lusamine\'s comments and personality work as well.
6. See my previous comments, and Larkmarn\'s.
And \'\'why\'\' are we even debating on this? The majority of people in the fandom definitely agree on this: there are already tons of posts on the Pokemon subreddit on this topic. Check any Youtube video of the Motherbeast Lusamine boss fight and you\'ll have people crying DarkerAndEdgier. Heck, Kotaku ran an [[http://kotaku.com/pokemon-sun-and-moon-pokedex-entries-get-pretty-dark-1788760230 entire article]] on the Pokedex entries shortly after the games were leaked! We can keep discussing how dark the games are when compared to other Pokemon games, but the fact stands: the games \'\'are\'\' DarkerAndEdgier and the entries (aside from Deconstruction) should stay.
