While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off-guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn't just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off-guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn\'t just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine's mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull's membership.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine\'s mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull\'s membership.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon's pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon\'s pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations\' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N's self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it's given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with the parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all life on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus\' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N\'s self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it\'s given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with the parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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In a sense, the grounds I see for saying the new games are darker stems from the perception that this story does not talk down to its audience about mature concepts, actually trusting the player can handle them, while previous games either sugarcoated them or left them hidden behind euphemisms. If nothing else, I think it's fair for
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In a sense, the grounds I see for saying the new games are darker stems from the perception that this story does not talk down to its audience about mature concepts, actually trusting the player can handle them, while previous games either sugarcoated them or left them hidden behind euphemisms. If nothing else, I think it\'s fair for \"Darkier and Edgier\" to be YMMV.
I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids\' game is growing up with them, when there\'s no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids\' game (pretty sure there\'s a trope page discussing that).
While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off-guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn't just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off-guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn\'t just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine's mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull's membership.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine\'s mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull\'s membership.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon's pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon\'s pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations\' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N's self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it's given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with the parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus\' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N\'s self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it\'s given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with the parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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In a sense, the grounds I see for saying the new games are darker stems from the perception that this story does not talk down to its audience about mature concepts, actually trusting the player can handle them, while previous games either sugarcoated them or left them hidden behind euphemisms.
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In a sense, the grounds I see for saying the new games are darker stems from the perception that this story does not talk down to its audience about mature concepts, actually trusting the player can handle them, while previous games either sugarcoated them or left them hidden behind euphemisms. If nothing else, I think it\'s fair for \"Darkier and Edgier\" to be YMMV.
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids' game is growing up with them, when there's no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids' game (pretty sure there's a trope page discussing that).
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids\' game is growing up with them, when there\'s no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids\' game (pretty sure there\'s a trope page discussing that).
While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn't just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off-guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn\'t just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine's mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull's membership.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine\'s mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull\'s membership.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon's pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon\'s pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations\' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N's self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it's given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with the parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus\' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N\'s self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it\'s given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with the parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids' game is growing up with them, when there's no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids' game (pretty sure there's a trope page discussing that).
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids\' game is growing up with them, when there\'s no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids\' game (pretty sure there\'s a trope page discussing that).
While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn't just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn\'t just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine's mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull's membership.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine\'s mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull\'s membership.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon's pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon\'s pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations\' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N's self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it's given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus\' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N\'s self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it\'s given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with the parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids' game is growing up with them, when there's no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids' game (pretty sure there's a trope page discussing that).
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids\' game is growing up with them, when there\'s no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids\' game (pretty sure there\'s a trope page discussing that).
While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn't just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn\'t just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine's mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull's membership.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine\'s mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull\'s membership.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon's pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon\'s pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations\' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on earth (or more). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N's self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it's given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on Earth (or the universe, in Cyrus\' case). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N\'s self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it\'s given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids' game is growing up with them, when there's no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids' game (pretty sure there's a trope page discussing that).
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids\' game is growing up with them, when there\'s no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids\' game (pretty sure there\'s a trope page discussing that).
While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn't just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn\'t just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine's mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of the Team Skull's membership.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine\'s mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of Team Skull\'s membership.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon's pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon\'s pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations\' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on earth (or more). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N's self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it's given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on earth (or more). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N\'s self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it\'s given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids' game is growing up with them, when there's no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids' game (pretty sure there's a trope page discussing that).
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids\' game is growing up with them, when there\'s no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids\' game (pretty sure there\'s a trope page discussing that).
While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn't just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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While I do not disagree with the argument here, the Pokemon games have had some fairly mature content before, but I do remember being caught off guard by how straightforward Sun/Moon are about it. It wasn\'t just a matter of whether Pokemon had dealt with it before, but it was no longer beating around the bush.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, were completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine's mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of the Team Skull's membership.
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Furthermore, my experience with past games is that they often subverted their own themes. For example, the attempt in Black and White to deconstruct the genre, for me at least, was completely undermined when it was revealed Plasma was two-faced. Here, however, little is done to soften the more mature concepts, such as Lusamine\'s mistreatment and rejection of her children as well as the despair of the Team Skull\'s membership.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon's pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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As for the dark pokemon stories, you are correct; the attention-to-detail into Sun and Moon\'s pokedex entries is pretty much the same as was in Red and Blue, and there have even been examples since then. There is something to be said, however, for how the predator-prey explanations are more visceral than the last few generations\' have been (which are what many fans started with), which may be why it is perceived as being darker and edgier.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on earth (or more). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N's self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it's given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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Amen on the villains; I know I saw at least one post that Lusamine was more destructive than any previous villains, but the whole schtick for R/S, D/P, and X/Y was the villain potentially wiping out all live on earth (or more). The Ultra Beast threat is actually much more localized and tame by comparison; that said, the nature of the conflict between the characters is more personal, and the actual relationship between Lusamine and her children receives more attention than the relationship between N and Ghetsis (not that it is outright ignored, but the focus is more on N\'s self-appointed mission than on his feelings toward his father). Since it\'s given more attention, it may be easier for people to identify with parent-child conflict in Sun/Moon than the more adventure-style conflict in White/Black.
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids' game is growing up with them, when there's no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids' game (pretty sure there's a trope page discussing that).
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I definitely hear the frustration someone else mentioned on people constantly seeing each generation as darker and edgier, though; I think that follows from people wanting to believe their favorite kids\' game is growing up with them, when there\'s no harm in acknowledging you still like playing a kids\' game (pretty sure there\'s a trope page discussing that).
