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** Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and ''hide'' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told
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** Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and \'\'hide\'\' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told \"One of your close friends may be a traitor.\" and then deciding \"I\'ll entrust [[TemptingFate a very important secret]] [[DidntThinkThisThrough to one of my close friends]]!\". He even acknowledges that he made a mistake by doing this in the third book.
* The second example:
** \"I acknowledge that the Snatchers might have put up anti-apparition wards when they first appeared; that\'s why I put the word \"try\" in the original example. My issue when making that point was that the trio made no attempt to apparate out of the tent when the Snatchers appeared.\"
** As for your point about \"Trying to teleport away would be clear sign that they\'re neck-deep in shit if they\'re caught\", they were already screwed; they\'d said Voldemort\'s name, thus proving themselves to be anti-Voldemort rebels, the Snatchers had surrounded their tent, and were openly threatening them at wandpoint. Things couldn\'t have gotten much worse.
** Also, the trio know firsthand that the Snatcher groups vary in ability; some are as dangerous as Death Eaters, while the ones who grabbed Ron before were very incompetent. There was no guarantee for the heroes that the Snatchers would be capable of stopping them from apparating out, yet they made no attempt to try.
* The second example:
** \"I acknowledge that the Snatchers might have put up anti-apparition wards when they first appeared; that\'s why I put the word \"try\" in the original example. My issue when making that point was that the trio made no attempt to apparate out of the tent when the Snatchers appeared.\"
** As for your point about \"Trying to teleport away would be clear sign that they\'re neck-deep in shit if they\'re caught\", they were already screwed; they\'d said Voldemort\'s name, thus proving themselves to be anti-Voldemort rebels, the Snatchers had surrounded their tent, and were openly threatening them at wandpoint. Things couldn\'t have gotten much worse.
** Also, the trio know firsthand that the Snatcher groups vary in ability; some are as dangerous as Death Eaters, while the ones who grabbed Ron before were very incompetent. There was no guarantee for the heroes that the Snatchers would be capable of stopping them from apparating out, yet they made no attempt to try.
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** Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and ''hide'' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told
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** Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and \'\'hide\'\' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told \"One of your close friends may be a traitor.\" and then deciding \"I\'ll entrust [[TemptingFate a very important secret]] [[DidntThinkThisThrough to one of my close friends]]!\". He even acknowledges that he made a mistake by doing this in the third book.
* The second example:
** \"I acknowledge that the Snatchers might have put up anti-apparition wards when they first appeared; that\'s why I put the word \"try\" in the original example. My issue when making that point was that the trio made no attempt to apparate out of the tent when the Snatchers appeared.\"
** As for your point about \"Trying to teleport away would be clear sign that they\'re neck-deep in shit if they\'re caught\", they were already screwed; they\'d said Voldemort\'s name, thus proving themselves to be anti-Voldemort rebels, the Snatchers had surrounded their tent, and were openly threatening them at wandpoint. Things couldn\'t have gotten much worse. Also, the trio know firsthand that the Snatcher groups vary in ability; some are as dangerous as Death Eaters, while the ones who grabbed Ron before were very incompetent. There was no guarantee for the heroes that the Snatchers would be capable of stopping them from apparating out, yet they made no attempt to try.
* The second example:
** \"I acknowledge that the Snatchers might have put up anti-apparition wards when they first appeared; that\'s why I put the word \"try\" in the original example. My issue when making that point was that the trio made no attempt to apparate out of the tent when the Snatchers appeared.\"
** As for your point about \"Trying to teleport away would be clear sign that they\'re neck-deep in shit if they\'re caught\", they were already screwed; they\'d said Voldemort\'s name, thus proving themselves to be anti-Voldemort rebels, the Snatchers had surrounded their tent, and were openly threatening them at wandpoint. Things couldn\'t have gotten much worse. Also, the trio know firsthand that the Snatcher groups vary in ability; some are as dangerous as Death Eaters, while the ones who grabbed Ron before were very incompetent. There was no guarantee for the heroes that the Snatchers would be capable of stopping them from apparating out, yet they made no attempt to try.
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* The first example:
Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and ''hide'' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told
Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and ''hide'' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told
to:
* The first example:
** Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and \'\'hide\'\' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told \"One of your close friends may be a traitor.\" and then saying \"I\'ll entrust a very important secret [[DidntThinkThisThrough to one of my close friends]]!\". He even acknowledges that he made a mistake by doing this in the third book.
* The second example:
** \"I acknowledge that the Snatchers might have put up anti-apparition wards when they first appeared; that\'s why I put the word \"try\" in the original example. My issue when making that point was that the trio made no attempt to apparate out of the tent when the Snatchers appeared.\"
** As for your point about \"Trying to teleport away would be clear sign that they\'re neck-deep in shit if they\'re caught\", they were already screwed; they\'d said Voldemort\'s name, thus proving themselves to be anti-Voldemort rebels, the Snatchers had surrounded their tent, and were openly threatening them at wandpoint. Things couldn\'t have gotten much worse. Also, the trio know firsthand that the Snatcher groups vary in ability; some are as dangerous as Death Eaters, while the ones who grabbed Ron before were very incompetent. There was no guarantee for the heroes that the Snatchers would be capable of stopping them from apparating out, yet they made no attempt to try.
** Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and \'\'hide\'\' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told \"One of your close friends may be a traitor.\" and then saying \"I\'ll entrust a very important secret [[DidntThinkThisThrough to one of my close friends]]!\". He even acknowledges that he made a mistake by doing this in the third book.
* The second example:
** \"I acknowledge that the Snatchers might have put up anti-apparition wards when they first appeared; that\'s why I put the word \"try\" in the original example. My issue when making that point was that the trio made no attempt to apparate out of the tent when the Snatchers appeared.\"
** As for your point about \"Trying to teleport away would be clear sign that they\'re neck-deep in shit if they\'re caught\", they were already screwed; they\'d said Voldemort\'s name, thus proving themselves to be anti-Voldemort rebels, the Snatchers had surrounded their tent, and were openly threatening them at wandpoint. Things couldn\'t have gotten much worse. Also, the trio know firsthand that the Snatcher groups vary in ability; some are as dangerous as Death Eaters, while the ones who grabbed Ron before were very incompetent. There was no guarantee for the heroes that the Snatchers would be capable of stopping them from apparating out, yet they made no attempt to try.
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Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and ''hide'' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told
to:
Except that what my entry was suggesting was that Sirius remain the Secret Keeper, and \'\'hide\'\' from Voldemort; killing himself was meant to be a last resort. I considered his canon action an example of this trope because it was, at the very basic level, him being told \"One of your close friends may be a traitor.\" and then saying \"I\'ll entrust a very important secret [[DidntThinkThisThrough to one of my close friends]]!\". He even acknowledges that he made a mistake by doing this in the third book.
* The second example:\\
\"I acknowledge that the Snatchers might have put up anti-apparition wards when they first appeared; that\'s why I put the word \"try\" in the original example. My issue when making that point was that the trio made no attempt to apparate out of the tent when the Snatchers appeared.\"\\\\
As for your point about \"Trying to teleport away would be clear sign that they\'re neck-deep in shit if they\'re caught\", they were already screwed; they\'d said Voldemort\'s name, thus proving themselves to be anti-Voldemort rebels, the Snatchers had surrounded their tent, and were openly threatening them at wandpoint. Things couldn\'t have gotten much worse. Also, the trio know firsthand that the Snatcher groups vary in ability; some are as dangerous as Death Eaters, while the ones who grabbed Ron before were very incompetent. There was no guarantee for the heroes that the Snatchers would be capable of stopping them from apparating out, yet they made no attempt to try.
* The second example:\\
\"I acknowledge that the Snatchers might have put up anti-apparition wards when they first appeared; that\'s why I put the word \"try\" in the original example. My issue when making that point was that the trio made no attempt to apparate out of the tent when the Snatchers appeared.\"\\\\
As for your point about \"Trying to teleport away would be clear sign that they\'re neck-deep in shit if they\'re caught\", they were already screwed; they\'d said Voldemort\'s name, thus proving themselves to be anti-Voldemort rebels, the Snatchers had surrounded their tent, and were openly threatening them at wandpoint. Things couldn\'t have gotten much worse. Also, the trio know firsthand that the Snatcher groups vary in ability; some are as dangerous as Death Eaters, while the ones who grabbed Ron before were very incompetent. There was no guarantee for the heroes that the Snatchers would be capable of stopping them from apparating out, yet they made no attempt to try.
