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Prime32 Since: Jan, 2001
#133726: May 31st 2016 at 3:58:09 PM

Or maybe the Lunarians were mistaken as gods by humans?
You can't really mistake something for a kami, because it's determined by how much awe you inspire in others. Everyone has some degree of kami-ness, and IIRC sumo champions are considered living shrines or somesuch.
I.e. if everyone considers you a god, then by definition you're a god.

I think it's more like the universe itself thinks the Amatsukami are awesome - even the grass and the clouds feel humbled in their presence.

edited 31st May '16 4:03:11 PM by Prime32

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#133727: May 31st 2016 at 4:04:34 PM

"A god in every blade of grass." It's just that most of them are nameless and powerless. If someone starts worshiping that blade of grass for whatever reason, they develop an identity. And if that god stops being worshiped for whatever reason they become nameless and powerless again.

Edit: A Tsukumogami is the same kind of nameless spirit, inhabiting the tool, but that spirit turned youkai due to mistreatment. This kind of religious worldview is called animism: everything in the world possesses a soul.

edited 31st May '16 4:10:26 PM by Clarste

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#133728: May 31st 2016 at 4:11:50 PM

Read Small Gods everyone

Its only barely related to the conversation but its a fun book

Edit: Dreaming the Moon.

edited 31st May '16 6:05:41 PM by Bocaj

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TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#133729: May 31st 2016 at 8:29:50 PM

Lunarians are actual gods. You seem to be assuming they aren't, somehow.

I...never considered that. I was under the impression they were organic, living species like humans, animals, etc. Or maybe they're both? I forgot to take into consideration that "god" is more like job/status/title rather than species.

They're ancient humanlike species who happen to be gods, like how Sanae is a human who happen to be a god, and how that one tree in Wa HH is a tree that happen to be a god. Did I get it right this time?

Somewhat related, so Sanae can totally split herself up if she were worshipped at different places right?

edited 31st May '16 8:32:07 PM by TrueShadow1

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#133730: May 31st 2016 at 8:35:08 PM

No, they're just gods. They've never been anything but gods.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#133731: May 31st 2016 at 9:19:34 PM

[up] That actually explains everything.

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#133732: May 31st 2016 at 9:24:58 PM

Aren't the Lunarians capable of dying from unnatural causes though?

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TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#133733: May 31st 2016 at 9:28:33 PM

Why are they so afraid of impurities then? Aren't gods immortal as long as they get enough faith?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#133734: May 31st 2016 at 9:30:13 PM

Also, isn't the Netherworld technically "purer" than the Moon itself is, since the Moon is just an artificial Pure Land?

edited 31st May '16 9:30:29 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#133735: May 31st 2016 at 9:32:57 PM

I don't think it's ever been said that gods can't die.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#133736: May 31st 2016 at 10:00:51 PM

And that is not even counting the Hourai Immortals.

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
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#133737: May 31st 2016 at 10:09:31 PM

gods are weird

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#133739: May 31st 2016 at 11:47:00 PM

So..any Ringo/The Beatles images yet?

edited 1st Jun '16 10:42:46 AM by Ssj3Gojira

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matteste Since: Jul, 2010
#133740: Jun 1st 2016 at 12:36:06 AM

Apparently, there has been done more to U Li L PS 4 version than simply adding Reisen. From some of ZUN's recent comments it seems a lot might happen in her story and that some of it required quite some coding to get right, supposedly some scene that was impossible in the current version of the engine. While I myself don't know what to make of it, what it does do is make me worry even more that we will not see this in the PC version.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#133741: Jun 1st 2016 at 12:45:37 AM

"Something that the programming didn't previously allow" doesn't necessarily mean something big and meaningful is happening. It could just be something like having three people talking in the same scene.

And we already knew that it was meant to be a follow-up to LoLK, and presumably act as some kind of epilogue to ULiL. Since they've noted several times by now that the incident still hasn't been resolved.

matteste Since: Jul, 2010
#133742: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:46:26 AM

That's why I say I don't know what to make of it since I know ZUN well enough as a writer in that I know he is the kind that likes to keep things low key and never go for pomp and pinage. But at the same time, he seems to try this time since they had to do a lot of new music and ZUN stating that he crammed everything he wanted to into Reisen's scenario.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#133743: Jun 1st 2016 at 5:13:08 AM

So..any Beetles pictures of Ringo yet?

Nothing on Danbooru for either Ringo + beetle or Ringo + The Beatles.

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Shocking Gun!
#133744: Jun 1st 2016 at 5:19:19 AM

From deviantart there is a low-quality joke and one what doesn't acknowledge the joke. She is apparently a singer. And one more just because.

edited 1st Jun '16 5:19:36 AM by TPPR10

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GiantCaveMushroom Since: May, 2014
#133745: Jun 1st 2016 at 5:53:52 AM

I just realized a question that I probably should've asked earlier. What kind of goddess is Hecatia? Is she an amatsukami or a completely different being altogether?

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Shocking Gun!
#133746: Jun 1st 2016 at 6:01:35 AM

[up] I guess it depends if all gods follow same rules or they are based on any given mythology. Then again, if a snake all the way from India got transported to Gensokyo after eating a human, I have no clue how far Gensokyo's influence really reach out.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#133747: Jun 1st 2016 at 9:18:50 AM

The most important thing is that Hecatia is considered the strongest Touhou character by ZUN.

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The Wanderer
#133748: Jun 1st 2016 at 2:49:54 PM

Was reading up on foxes and found out that their mutual rivalry with tanuki isn't just a mythological thing, quoting the Wikipedia red rox article:

Red foxes dominate raccoon dogs, sometimes killing their kits or biting adults to death. Cases are known of foxes killing raccoon dogs entering their dens. Both species compete for mouse-like prey. This competition reaches a peak during early spring, when food is scarce. In Tartaria, red fox predation accounted for 11.1% of deaths among 54 raccoon dogs, and amounted to 14.3% of 186 raccoon dog deaths in north-western Russia.[130]

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#133749: Jun 1st 2016 at 10:24:44 PM

[up] No wonder Mamizou holds a grudge against foxes.

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#133750: Jun 1st 2016 at 11:57:41 PM

Love this orchestration.

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