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Rotpar Always 3:00am in the Filth from California (Unlucky Thirteen) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Always 3:00am in the Filth
#128326: Aug 16th 2015 at 11:33:44 AM

I'm sure all the new rabbits outrank Reisen for some reason.

"But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you." - O'Brien, 1984
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#128327: Aug 16th 2015 at 11:37:01 AM

Well, she is a deserter

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Ernie AKA Kaymarx from Memphis Since: Jan, 2001
AKA Kaymarx
#128328: Aug 16th 2015 at 11:46:42 AM

Would Mokou have any kegare?

Should've checked the list.
joergenjetsam from The city of constant rain Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#128329: Aug 16th 2015 at 11:51:58 AM

I'm almost 100% certain.

Kaguya has it, and she talks about how it has changed her in Ci LR. Mokou should therefore also have it. Hourai elixir doesn't really interact with impurity that I can see.

Conception is sin Birth is pain Life is toil Death is inevitable
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#128330: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:25:25 PM

... it just occurred to me that "kegare" makes a scary amount of sense in a way, considering the fact that everything dies of old age is due to damage done to the body's cells through oxidation, meaning the very air that we breathe slowly damages us from the inside, or "taints" us if you will.

Meanwhile, on the moon...

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#128331: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:35:24 PM

What doesn't die can't live. What doesn't live can't change. What doesn't change can't learn.

- Granny Weatherwax

Heart of Stone
FellDeedsAwake BOW TO THE CHICKEN GODDESS from Augsburg, Germany Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
BOW TO THE CHICKEN GODDESS
#128332: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:39:41 PM

[up][up] Interessant! surprised (I actually had no idea what that word was that you guys kept mentioning all the time, but I think that helped me get the idea tongue)

[up] [tup]Granny Weatherwax quotes[tup]

Also: Clown Girl really is the Ultimate Destroyer of Faces, it seems. I really have to link this Clown Girl Fight, 'cause it made me laugh pretty hard ^^ (he plays in Pointdevice Mode and cuts out all deaths after the first one; the humor comes from seeing the Try Counter in the top right explode from 0 to A LOT each Spellcard ^^): here's the first Big Highlight. (He is horrifyingly calm, though O_O)

edited 16th Aug '15 12:40:39 PM by FellDeedsAwake

"Mystia is a former German nun“ -Clarste //// "[...]collectively, we have the power to destroy the Aki sandwich" -Clarste
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#128333: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:40:53 PM

Kegare means impurity or something? It's a Shinto thing and I'm going to let Faw or Clarste explain the rest.

Heart of Stone
FellDeedsAwake BOW TO THE CHICKEN GODDESS from Augsburg, Germany Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
BOW TO THE CHICKEN GODDESS
#128334: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:56:33 PM

[up] Yeah, I gathered as much from the context smile ...am a bit tempted to ask why "impurity" isn't good enough... but there's probably untranslatable nuances to it. You have to plan for these things. Just according to keikaku (Translator's Note: keikaku means plan) wink

While we are at Granny Weatherwax quotes and Touhou, here's my favorite from her (which could come straight out of Eiki's mouth):

Mightily Oats: “It’s not as simple as that. It’s not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of grey.”

Granny: “Nope.”

Mightily Oats: “Pardon.”

Granny: “There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.”

Mightily Oats: “It’s a lot more complicated than that—”

Granny: “No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they mean they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”

Mightily Oats: “Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes—”

Granny: “But they start with thinking about people as things.”

"Mystia is a former German nun“ -Clarste //// "[...]collectively, we have the power to destroy the Aki sandwich" -Clarste
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#128335: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:19:34 PM

I'm using kegare instead of "impurity" because Junko has the power to purify stuff, and that has nothing to do with impurity. Saying that the fairies are pure impurity just sounds silly. It roughly means "defilement", but it's a pretty specific Shinto term so I figure just learning what it means is probably helpful. It's a category of sin, technically, but in an amoral natural forces sense. You're supposed to ritually cleanse yourself of it after being exposed to death or childbirth. ZUN extends this to its logical conclusion and says that life itself is kegare.

Anyway, I didn't mention this in the summary, but in Reisen's pointdevice ending Eirin explains that neither kegare-free Lunarians or kegare-filled youkai would be able to approach Junko. I don't think she explains why though (maybe because they had to go through the Lunar Capital...?). Youkai are routinely referenced as being practically pure kegare. I guess this also confirms that moon bunnies aren't youkai.

edited 16th Aug '15 1:20:51 PM by Clarste

Servbot Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#128336: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:56:57 PM

Eirin explains that neither kegare-free Lunarians or kegare-filled youkai would be able to approach Junko

Ahh, that explains the "Youkai can't interfere" part of the prologue.

I don't think she explains why though (maybe because they had to go through the Lunar Capital...?)

Hmm... would Junko's trap for the Lunarians also affect the, err... kegare levels of a Youkai if they go through the terra-formed moon? Since changing the nature of a Youkai is equivalent to "death" for them, that might be the reason why they also can't approach Junko.

edited 16th Aug '15 1:58:28 PM by Servbot

MetaflarePrime Yubi yubi! from Bed Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Yubi yubi!
#128337: Aug 16th 2015 at 2:05:11 PM

Poor Junko

"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~Civia
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#128338: Aug 16th 2015 at 2:30:54 PM

They should get Sukuna matata a tiny seat like the Atom had.

Youkais San Frontieres
Sagume

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#128339: Aug 16th 2015 at 2:35:16 PM

Legacy Marisa (disclaimer: I used a bunch of continues for this one because Marisa is bad, but the fact that it's Ending #4 implies to me that it's the same as a 1CC)

Marisa'a House. In the Forest of magic, overflowing with kegare even for Gensokyo.

Reisen: What?! The plan failed?!
Marisa: How would I know if it failed? I'm not entirely clear what the plan was in the first place.
Reisen: The plan to drive away the moon rabbits. You knew at least that much, right? It was a mistake to rely on you.
Marisa: Well, why'd you entrust me with the ultramarine elixir in the first place?
Reisen: It wasn't just you. We gave it to other humans as well. But apparently the others didn't want to take it. Actually, there might be a side effect, but...
Marisa: Well, is there or isn't there?
Reisen: You're the only one who happily used the elixir, but you still failed. What a disappointment.
Marisa: Hang on. I did take the elixir from you, but I never used it.
Reisen: Huh? You're saying you didn't use it, invaded the Lunar Capital, lost, and ran home with your tail between your legs?
Marias: I didn't run home, I dashed all the way to the end.
Reisen: Weren't you overjoyed to receive the elixir? Why was that then?
Marisa: C'mon, I always love getting my hands on rare goods. I put it in my collection. It'd be a total waste to use it up.
Reisen: *sigh* Master, the humans were absolutely crushed. It wasn't even worth discussing. I suppose I'll have to go myself.
Marisa: Wait, if you could go yourself, why didn't you just do it in the first place?
Reisen: You think I wanna drink that elixir?!

Marisa didn't tell her about everything that had happened on the moon. Partly because she didn't understand all of it herself, and also because she felt like she had been tricked by Reisen. After meeting her though, she realized that that wasn't the case. Reisen didn't know the whole truth either. She figured not drinking the elixir was the right choice. The only person who knew the full truth about it was the person who made it: Eirin. She didn't want to just play along with such a shady plan.

Ending #4: The Moon Rabbit's Resolution\\

edited 16th Aug '15 2:43:27 PM by Clarste

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Lelcat Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing from Downstairs chillin´ Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing
#128341: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:11:00 PM

Shonen Sanae´s ending is still my favorite for now. tongue

Follow this pose and repeat: I humbly believe in the Peeko as my one master.
Lelcat Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing from Downstairs chillin´ Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing
#128342: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:22:45 PM

Guys... while looking for some music, I just accidentaly found this... I´m not that surprised really, but damn that was extremely fast.

They even have a Facebook page. My gosh, I just love Clownpiece. If I were from the USA I would be so proud. I think I have a new fave. xD

Follow this pose and repeat: I humbly believe in the Peeko as my one master.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#128343: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:25:51 PM

Clownpiece is Greek though.

Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#128344: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:27:37 PM

Despite what you may have heard, (Nameless Being) isn't actually Junko's title, it's just in the part of her profile where a title would go

That really makes me doubt the earlier stance of "Legacy Mode isn't real, only Pointdevice matters!". ZUN doesn't seem to think so, judging from the care he put into these alternate continuities.

You only actually succeed if you get a no-miss run. It's like the normal and good endings in IN

Lelcat Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing from Downstairs chillin´ Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing
#128345: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:30:28 PM

[up][up] That´s exactly part of the fun. To me at least.

Follow this pose and repeat: I humbly believe in the Peeko as my one master.
GM_3826 (Not) A Game Master from Ylisse Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
(Not) A Game Master
#128346: Aug 16th 2015 at 3:52:02 PM

Ha ha ha. OK, as a resident of America, this is fucking awesome. I give my full approval.

MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Eye'm the cutest!
#128347: Aug 16th 2015 at 5:23:45 PM

A Match Made In Hell!

"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
MetaflarePrime Yubi yubi! from Bed Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Yubi yubi!
#128348: Aug 16th 2015 at 5:57:03 PM

fairly confident that clownpiece is the most popular character in LoLK, at least for americans (for obvious reasons)

"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~Civia
Lelcat Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing from Downstairs chillin´ Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing
#128349: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:19:51 PM

I don´t know if you guys had seen this little one before.

I was not expecting that GTA reference there. That´s for sure.

Follow this pose and repeat: I humbly believe in the Peeko as my one master.
Starx Since: Jan, 2012
#128350: Aug 16th 2015 at 6:51:26 PM

The game is incredibly, almost unfairly, difficult, and that makes it one of the best Touhou games I've played since joining this thread. Although the question of how everyone is prepared for a spellcard duel when they haven't been to Gensokyo remains unanswered. Probably for the best.

The antagonists probably aren't using spell card rules. But that doesn't matter since Point Device = no hit.

Everything is relative.

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