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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#121752: Nov 29th 2014 at 12:56:37 AM

Alright, lets see if this will work...

Touhou Warriors Theorycrafting Test #1: Reimu Hakurei (Purification Gohei) Moveset

EDIT: Awesome, it did.

edited 29th Nov '14 12:57:34 AM by TheMageofFire

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121753: Nov 29th 2014 at 12:58:01 AM

I'm not sure if the splitting is necessary...?

There's a hard limit to page size. Things start breaking if you exceed it

giving Reimu and Marisa also their own "The two Main Characters" page on the Main Characters Index?

Just feels kind of wasteful. Lots of small pages is annoying

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#121754: Nov 29th 2014 at 12:58:33 AM

I would also recommend adding, or at least linking, Alice and Yuuka to their respective Windows game positions.

[up]If we're feeling generous, we could make a generic "protagonists" page for all playable non-fighter characters. And then I will be forced to knife-fight with someone about Remilia and Yukari.

edited 29th Nov '14 1:16:37 AM by Clarste

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121755: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:03:12 AM

Yes.

Context?

I would also recommend adding, or at least linking, Alice and Yuuka to their respective Windows game positions

That's a good idea. You should go do that now

If we're feeling generous, we could make a generic "protagonists" page for all playable non-fighter characters. And then I be forced to knife-fight with someone about Remilia and Yukari.

Yeah, there's a reason I didn't suggest broadening the selection

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#121756: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:06:21 AM

The context was the post directly above mine. I just agreed with everything FDA said. More particularly the bit about Marisa being buried in a pile of forgotten characters.

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#121757: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:21:52 AM

There's a hard limit to page size. Things start breaking if you exceed it

All right smile

Just feels kind of wasteful. Lots of small pages is annoying

I do agree on the second sentence! smile But I stand by the two Main Chars being worth it. Glad Clarste agrees smile

If we're feeling generous, we could make a generic "protagonists" page for all playable non-fighter characters. And then I be forced to knife-fight with someone about Remilia and Yukari.

Yeah, there's a reason I didn't suggest broadening the selection

Indeed, and neither do I. smile I did consider very briefly to include Sanae, Youmu and Sakuya in "Main Characters", but NO. Dismissed that. Can of worms, who gets in and who doesn't. But Reimu/Marisa, no question.

edited 29th Nov '14 1:22:33 AM by FellDeedsAwake

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#121758: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:26:13 AM

Then we can call it "Human Protagonists" to cut off any discussion right from the start. Feels like an arbitrary dictatorial decision from me though.

Although it does give us an excuse to blab about "youkai cause incidents, humans resolve them" in the preface.

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#121759: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:32:43 AM

[up] Nnnnno, gotta stay firm here. smile Rei/Mari are the Main Chars of the Franchise, there's a very clear distinction there from all others who sometimes are playable, sometimes not, sometimes cameo in a manga, sometimes not... Rei/Mari Only it should be.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121760: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:33:14 AM

Then we can call it "Human Protagonists" to cut off any discussion right from the start. Feels like an arbitrary dictatorial decision from me though.

Mary, Renko, Kourin, Kosuzu... Not to mention that Youmu and Sanae's claim to human status is shaky

"Incident Resolvers" might work

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#121761: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:34:45 AM

Sanae is totally human. Just also a god. And the others are not in games.

Incident Resolvers up the exact same can of worms we were trying to avoid, unless we add more arbitrary rules like "more than once". And then the fighting game incidents come to haunt us, etc etc.

edited 29th Nov '14 1:36:23 AM by Clarste

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121763: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:48:35 AM

Ehhh... I have responses to those points, but these kinds of semantic debates are what I wanted to avoid

A couple questions, though:

Could the issue be resolved by moving Reimu and Marisa to the top of the PC-98 page?

Does anyone here consider the group of "heroines" to be larger than Reimu, Marisa, Sakuya, Youmu, and Sanae?

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#121764: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:50:32 AM

I'd consider Sakuya a heroine in the sense that she's been involved in more than half of the incidents, either as an opponent or as a playable character. Despite her early exposure, it seems Sanae's going to drop off from being a playable character and Youmu's return was likely a one-time thing because of the plot in question.

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#121765: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:52:09 AM

Gah, sadly have to leave now for family reasons tongue To reiterate my point/"vote" :

- Extra "Main Characters" page on the Characters Index.

- Only Reimu and Marisa there.

- However, if inclusion of other Incident Solvers unavoidable, it is still preferable to the current situation.

(Last Minute Edit!)

these kinds of semantic debates are what I wanted to avoid

Yes, me too. sad

Could the issue be resolved by moving Reimu and Marisa to the top of the PC-98 page?

Would be better, but no, not resolved.

Does anyone here consider the group of "heroines" to be larger than Reimu, Marisa, Sakuya, Youmu, and Sanae?

I don't.

edited 29th Nov '14 1:55:44 AM by FellDeedsAwake

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121766: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:56:31 AM

Despite her early exposure, it seems Sanae's going to drop off from being a playable character and Youmu's return was likely a one-time thing because of the plot in question.

I'd like to note that ISC groups Marisa, Sakuya, Youmu, and Sanae together

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#121767: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:57:52 AM

Sanae being gone for one game means she's being written out? Yeesh. Although I guess there was also that conversation in WaHH.

Personally I'm not comfortable with Reimu and Marisa being on the PC-98 page because I forget to check it. I don't think my own personal issues are quite as relevant as the new-user experience though, so I'm not sure that means anything. I think it's possible that someone unfamiliar with Touhou might have been warned that PC-98 characters no longer show up and that they would therefore decide to skip the page entirely, but I have no idea how likely that is.

I don't consider the group of "heroines" to be larger than that.

edited 29th Nov '14 1:58:47 AM by Clarste

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#121768: Nov 29th 2014 at 1:59:08 AM

Well she's been gone for three games as a playable characters. HM, DDC, and ISC, though I can at least excuse that last one because it's meant to be Seija only.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#121769: Nov 29th 2014 at 2:02:16 AM

Fighting games 100% do not count for this and now I have to knife fight you. Why'd you go and do that?

Also, Sakuya was gone for 4 games in a row by your own logic.

edited 29th Nov '14 2:03:40 AM by Clarste

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#121770: Nov 29th 2014 at 2:14:59 AM

Also, Sakuya was gone for 4 games in a row by your own logic.

Eh, I wouldn't count Sakuya as being in 'Soku for this kind of purpose. She's only playable if you connect it with SWR. Which'd bring the count up to 7 missed games in a row

Oh, for reference, TVT does have anchors, but links to them display red (so they're useless)

edited 29th Nov '14 3:51:50 AM by Hylarn

AlaAlba Since: Jun, 2011
#121771: Nov 29th 2014 at 6:40:39 AM

Fantasy Kaleidoscope episode 4 Shou, Nazrin, and sealed Byakuren make appearance.

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#121772: Nov 29th 2014 at 8:24:48 AM

is there any way to turn off the scrolling comments because jesus fuck that's been a bad idea since day one of forever

EDIT: nvm found the button

edited 29th Nov '14 8:25:09 AM by MetaflarePrime

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#121773: Nov 29th 2014 at 9:52:38 AM

For the 'main characters' or 'playable characters' or whatever just specify that they had to be playable in X number whole number games. That should limit it down to where you want it to be, right?

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#121774: Nov 29th 2014 at 9:53:55 AM

Meanwhile, I just realised that tengu technology can totally take pictures of vampires. Huh.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
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#121775: Nov 29th 2014 at 9:58:57 AM

I don't think touhou vampires have the no reflection thing going on.

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