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StarkMaximum I missed this avatar. from someplace funny i dunno Since: Jan, 2001
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#78326: Oct 10th 2012 at 11:56:32 AM

Seiga and Yoshika interest me, so I expressed interest in them showing up. The end.

Edit: JESUS I'M NOT EVEN TRYING.

edited 10th Oct '12 11:57:10 AM by StarkMaximum

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TakerFoxx Dead Parrot from right above you. Look up Since: Jan, 2001
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#78328: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:00:05 PM

She is the ebilest. Yoshika is ebilest-by-proxy.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#78329: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:06:56 PM

Seiga does have nice hair loopies going on. Granted, they are antenna of evil but they're still pretty nice.

And Yoshika was a poet and didn't know it.

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#78330: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:08:53 PM

Her hairstick is pretty fancy despite being a symbol of corruption and avarice.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#78331: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:10:02 PM

I dunno. Her lifespan wickedness doesn't really factor into her viability as a fighter. I initially though of Seiga as the fighter, and Yoshika as a mobile assist/shield.

Actually, if Seiga were the playable one, she'd be an interesting variant on Alice's fighting style, if she doesn't make it into the game.

edited 10th Oct '12 12:11:41 PM by Enlong

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#78332: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:10:42 PM

And she has a number of good philosophical points, even if her conclusions are, well, not.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#78333: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:12:25 PM

[up][up] Yeah, no popes lurking this thread.

Actually, I'm a pope. I declared myself pope of something-or-other back in middle school. I'm not sure if it ever expired.

Anyway, I'd like to see Seiga because I'm a fanboy. And Kasen because clearly ZUN rejected her former appearances to make this one more meaningful. Right?

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#78334: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:13:20 PM

Alternatively, he'll continue to reject her appearing until WAHH is done and her amazing, unpredictable secret is finally revealed.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#78335: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:15:39 PM

Honestly I can't really imagine WAHH ever revealing it. While it does acknowledge some sort of continuity, it doesn't really have a plot.

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#78336: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:16:46 PM

I gotta wonder why is Seiga evil? Is she really the complete monster that the fandom paints her as?

edited 10th Oct '12 12:17:42 PM by GAP

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#78337: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:21:53 PM

[Stark post goes here]

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#78338: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:22:49 PM

Well, mostly a bunch of characters call her evil in SOPM. Like, explicitly. Not "I don't like her because she does X", but "Seiga is evil and radiates evil from her pores." It's revealed in WAHH that as far as Hell is concerned her main "sin" is living too long. Hell, ie: the Ministry of Right and Wrong, doesn't look kindly on unsanctioned immortality.

Other than that though, all she's got going for her are lots of acts of petty evil. Enslaving the dead, starting holy wars, misdemeanor theft, impersonating Santa Claus... that sort of thing. Based on her rather cheerful attitude the whole time it's more like she doesn't care about the consequence of her actions.

edited 10th Oct '12 12:27:30 PM by Clarste

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#78339: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:25:24 PM

She's pretty evil; it's one of the very few things that Miko and Byakuren agree upon.

Byakuren: Now that you mention it, wasn't there another hermit who showed up with Ms. Miko? Ms. Seiga Kaku? I've felt an extraordinarily strong evil from her, but what exactly is she...?
Miko: She's the one who taught me Tao, you could call her my master.
Byakuren: She manipulates corpses as she pleases and disrupts the providence of nature with her actions. I can't bear the thought that she's also a hermit....
Miko: In the end, the Tao is the Cosmic Truth. How to use this Truth isn't something that Taoism teaches. It is evil when used by the evil, and good when used by the good. That is something Seiga taught me through her actions.
Byakuren: Actually, Ms. Seiga has been going around bothering people. At this rate, it wouldn't be surprising if someone destroyed her. If other people don't, I might do it myself...
Marisa: Definitely. Recently she snuck into my house and surprised me. I almost murdered her by accident.

edited 10th Oct '12 12:25:45 PM by asterism

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#78340: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:28:32 PM

She stole Christmas so she's on the level of the Grinch at least but her heart will never grow three sizes that day. Probably because she's blue instead of green and the two aren't the same.

Actually, I'm a pope. I declared myself pope of something-or-other back in middle school. I'm not sure if it ever expired.

Do you have a neat hat?

edited 10th Oct '12 12:29:38 PM by Bocaj

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StarkMaximum I missed this avatar. from someplace funny i dunno Since: Jan, 2001
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#78341: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:28:49 PM

[Futile reminder that the appeal of Touhou is the malleability of supposed "canon"]

edited 10th Oct '12 12:29:58 PM by StarkMaximum

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#78342: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:31:09 PM

It appears Stark is suffering the slings of cognitive dissonance.

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#78343: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:31:35 PM

But not the arrows?

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#78345: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:45:10 PM

Well, true. I mean, even in canon, Kasen doesn't seem to think that Seiga really comes across as altogether evil when they met.

I can totally imagine whatever agents from Hell who come after her labeling her a "wicked hermit", and her just deciding to own that label.

I can't remember. Did she "steal" Christmas, or did she just have a very poor understanding of what Santa Clause is supposed to do?

On WAHH's plot or lack thereof: Each installment seems to have little overarcing plot, but the little bits with Kasen on her own seem to hint at something bigger. There's something unknown about her, she's got a very specific vendetta against the old Hell, and that chapter about the miracle doctor brought back her quest for a Kappa's Arm. I can't help but feel that it's building up to something.

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#78346: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:49:09 PM

It's implied that she might've been the one who killed Yoshika. I mean, enslaving a corpse is bad form, no matter what, but if it's someone you yourself killed, that's just one step short of straight-up mustache-twirling villainy.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#78347: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:54:08 PM

Where is that implied? I couldn't find anyhing like that in SOPM.

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StarkMaximum I missed this avatar. from someplace funny i dunno Since: Jan, 2001
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#78348: Oct 10th 2012 at 12:57:59 PM

She was dead, now she's not. She seems pretty cool with this setup.

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#78349: Oct 10th 2012 at 1:04:44 PM

She seems pretty cool only because Seiga's forcing that thought on her. Yoshika has no personality of her own; she's a philosophical zombie as well as a literal zombie.

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#78350: Oct 10th 2012 at 1:09:44 PM

When the tag is removed she starts reciting poetry so that's a thing.

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