All Purpose Negima Fanfiction Thread

Uh... Yamcha was always a joke. He lost to Goku when Goku was starving. Goku got a lot weaker when he was hungry. Put simply, Yamcha fought Goku at a very low level and still lost. And make no mistake, Yamcha lost that fight, the Wolf Fang Fist barely affected Goku the first time and it wouldn't have done better the second time.

Furthermore, the first pactio with Asuna is succesful.

Yes, it's weaker than a properly done one would be, but it's still a succesful pactio.

He's born with it of course its going to be different.

That barely makes any sense, and I'm not sure it was ever mentioned in the manga either.

Well, yeah, but compared to most other manga settings, especially after his training with Kamesennin, he'd still be a powerhouse out of his own series.

edited 19th Apr '15 1:00:26 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Negi applied it to his body over a course of time. Touta has always had it in his body dormant, becoming immortal and getting incredible wounds awakened it.

And the official confirmation that makes it any different comes from...?

Yeah, Yamcha lost his first fight in the series. However, he also pulled off several saves early on in it. For example, were it not for Yamcha, Boss Rabbit would have killed everyone.

Magia Erebea is working different than how it worked in its other two wielders, namely the woman who created it and the guy who was resurrected by it.

It's working differently on him than it does on Eva, which makes no sense because the reason it worked differently on Negi was because Negi was human, which Touta was not. Magia Erebea should work on Touta exactly as it works on Evangeline. It doesn't only because Akamatsu is more interested in showing how Touta is super special awesome and the greatest thing since sliced bread than he is in keeping an internally consistent universe.

I thought it worked differently on Touta because Touta is a flawed clone who can't use magic.

No, it works differently in Touta because Touta is Touta, and Akamatsu has forgotten that protagonists need to have some merit earned by themselves and not just given to them.

I think he might be remembering that now actually, what with Touta suddenly losing fights and Chirie flat out calling him out on this when he sulks about it.

edited 19th Apr '15 2:10:38 PM by Hyp3rB14d3

We really don't know what the encroachment thing entails, nor whether or not retroactively becoming a non-human effects it at all.

The only real differences with Negi and Touta is that the prior has always had a problem with the encroachment until he "died", whereas it only crops up when Touta is in mortal danger...well, not really, save Hoodie the Terrorists stint.

It basically works however Akamatsu needs it to work at any given time, to bail Touta out when he needs to.

edited 19th Apr '15 2:20:11 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Nah, if those defeats were meant to actually matter at all, then he would've been booted out of the tournament already (and the public apparently loves him despite of his sucky strike... yeah, suuuuuure. That's so totally the way it is in actual competitions). It's only a token feint, but even now the plot bends itself for him so even his losses don't actually inconvenience him.

edited 19th Apr '15 2:20:57 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

It's clear that the preliminaries have no 'disqualification' system, but rather a rank system with, what I think, is a time limit before the actual tournament.

And its mentioned that he's not the only one loosing, the guy who beat him in the last chapter is said to have already lost to whoever is the S rank guy.

As for why Touta is liked, well...why not? Everyone else also seems to be liked and its clear they haven't beaten the guy at the top.

edited 19th Apr '15 2:36:50 PM by Archivist10

Because S rank guy is the only one prepping to go to the real tournament thus far. Simply put, it doesn't matter unless you earn enough points, so his losses thus far do not effect him significantly enough to impact him, unless losses result in deducted points.

The fact that only powerful mages grant artifacts was stated in the manga itself. Emiy was not the only one who said that.

Takane is a powerful fighter, because other characters who know what they are talking about call her one. She also actively demonstrates more power than other characters who were also called powerful.

Remember, that Rakan indicated that a graduate from Meriadna like start of series Negi is already an extremely powerful mage compared to most mages out there. Takane is a lot more powerful tan start of series Negi and more powerful than Negi was when he granted Asuna her artifact as well. So, she's definitely powerful enough to grant one, because otherwise Negi would not have been able to grant Asuna one.

I didn't say he was doing it well, just that he seemed to be remembering it.

Simply put, it doesn't matter unless you earn enough points, so his losses thus far do not effect him significantly enough to impact him, unless losses result in deducted points.

That's the Watsonian perspective. From the Doylist perspective, the one that ultimately matters the most, it's still Akamatsu setting things up a way he doesn't affect Touta even if he loses, making all those defeats ultimately inconsequential.

Indeed. Of course, Touta's loss to his little sister actually does have plot significance.

Of course, that's balanced by how stupid and pointless it is for her to let him go when she has him down because, as ANB says it so well, because reasons. So there the plot bends itself for Touta as well.

When the villain has the hero at their mercy, you have to ask yourself, why would this person let the hero go?

If you can't think of any reason, congratulations, you've written a plothole.

But she didn't let him go. Touta's allies chased her off.

Ah, some thing's never change. Archvist still hasn't read the manga.

So, Tournament entry is decided on points... So, it's like a giant Clash of Clans ranking war?

Kind of, but there's also people who don't have to participate in that part. Touta would have been among those that got a bye, but he got Evangeblocked.

edited 19th Apr '15 4:09:53 PM by Hyp3rB14d3

For the people who are otherwise broke and can't buy their way into the tournament/lack the prestige to make it in (How does the space merc cowboy, Gloria, and our Skeletal friend not have that kind of dough? Is it that exorbitant?), yes. After that, its a matter of grinding, though I don't remember if multiple people can advance, or you have to knock the top contender off the block in order to make the cut.

You have to qualify as an S ranker to make it I think.