San Francisco BoE abolishes JROTC

Why am I not surprised?

"Curriculum of peace?" That is such bullshit. You get rid on an excellent program, yet have no alternatives standing by? It's incidents like this that make me glad I graduated a long time ago.

I knew America was going down hill when we started getting rid of gym and recess.

...they got rid of JROTC?

...but. D:

I'd make a joke about San Francisco, but not everyone there is like that. It happened in 2006 if I'm not mistaken; I'm looking to see if there are an articles regarding what they replaced it with.

I was wondering why you were posting something from 5 years ago.

JROTC programs are at the schools, and part of the school day, but part of the funding comes from the Federal gov't, as well as the officers. The exact role it plays in the curriculum varies though.

edited 11th Jul '11 12:52:44 PM by blueharp

Was this JROTC actually part of the education/schooling system in SF?

@ Topic: Why? just.... Why?

I wasn't aware of this.

Well, I already hate San Francisco, so this is just one more reason why I hope it slides into the fucking ocean.

I don't see the problem, keep the military separate from the mandatory schooling.

If people/kids want to follow it they can join some kind of cadet force outside of school hours.

Curriculum of Peace? WHAT?

Anyway, basic military training should be a part of the compulsory high-school curriculum.

As a Liberal, I feel safe to say that San Fransisco is the Tea Party of the left. I mean, honestly, why would you abolish JROTC? That's just... pointless. The crap they've been pulling over there is just absurd.

@Ian Ex Machina:

1)JROTC isn't the military.

2) It's not mandatory.

3) The same could be said about any other class that's offered; MUN, NHS ect.

Enrollment into JROTC classes and the program is in my experience a voluntary thing, Ian. It's one of the many non-mandatory classes students could pick from. It's something you choose to be in.

And now I feel a bit sad about having not been a part of it...There was lots of shit I wanted to do in high school and JROTC was one of those things...Right with theatre. I am...weird.

edited 11th Jul '11 1:21:56 PM by Aondeug

I had Air Force JROTC in my school, to be honest I made fun of those kids and never was a part of the program.

Most of them didn't join the military, but they just enjoyed doing it. It's like a club pretty much, and it teaches lots of useful things that aren't part of the regular school curriculum, and the instructors all genuinely care about what they teach.

Besides, the Drill Team was one of the athletic pursuits that lots of students at my school really enjoyed doing..

It is separate, it's not mandatory, it's an elective class. If anything the problems that are encountered when it comes to military-civilian relations are because of a lack of knowledge about what we're all about, JROTC is a step to correct that and raise awareness of what the military do and who we are. It's a good program for our relations so people don't think we're a bunch of fascist monsters.

edited 11th Jul '11 1:23:37 PM by Barkey

Well, it's better than the multitude of places that cut it because of a lack of funding, especially since those places cut Band, Art, and every other piece of the curriculum they could instead.

Not Football though. High School Football is very very important. Why we need Skyboxes for it!*

That said, looking at some high schools in the San Francisco Unified School district, at least two of them DO have JROTC programs so...um, apparently they changed their minds or something.

I'm not going to lie, I always hoped that somebody would drop the rifle during drill team; I think it was 20 pushups each time.

@Kino

1)JROTC isn't the military. 2) It's not mandatory. 3) The same could be said about any other class that's offered; MUN, NHS ect.

I'm only going by the article, which made it sound military.
Fair enough then.
No idea of your acronyms.

Yeah that's a pretty big party foul. When it happens there's always a big gasp heh..

^

Essentially what they did for JROTC at my high school was teach military history from the perspective of the branch teaching it, take their classes on field trips to air force bases and to air shows, keep a drill team trained to do demonstrations at the school with the other sports groups, do summer camps where they learned boy scout-esque survival skills and how to maintain a standard of cleanliness and hygiene(and how to make a hospital corner bed, anger..) and did military style PT.

edited 11th Jul '11 1:27:31 PM by Barkey

I'm not sure if it was Air Force or the Marines, but there's an awesome vid of a drill team at a graduation, and they're doing all sorts of walking through ranks type movements.

Schools have a duty to equip children not only for academic studies, but also for the practical side of life. Kicking out gym was a completely retarded move, and even this shades in comparison.

edited 11th Jul '11 1:31:20 PM by MilosStefanovic

Our school had Air Force as well for JROTC.

Kicking out gym makes no sense to me...

edited 11th Jul '11 1:31:07 PM by Aondeug

So it's basically what I'd call the cadets over here but as an optional class?

The only argument I can think of against it is if you needed the time during school hours for something else, but even then you could have it after school or something.

Kids could get hurt.

What would you need time for? JROTC is a class like any other, you pick what classes you ant and go from there.

edited 11th Jul '11 1:32:46 PM by Kino

My school district is getting rid of it too, though mostly for financial reasons. That's why a lot of schools in my area have cut gym and music, because they don't have the money for the equipment.

How can you not have enough for gym? If you have an open space and a $10 soccer ball you're good to go.

If we are making a "time for other classes" argument then I would counter that and say that you should just get rid of all the damn electives. All of them. No one gets any. As opposed to our "1 or 2 for each year" thing.

Gym and kids getting hurt: That...I...but...Lazy kids...HEALTHYNESS. Just fuck.