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#2601: May 16th 2016 at 11:48:05 AM

Aside from him having a body at the time, but yeah. It can work.

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#2602: May 16th 2016 at 11:50:57 AM

His colors are faded. That clearly means he's still a spirit.

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#2603: May 16th 2016 at 11:57:28 AM

Site's fucked up. On the other hand, it led me to that old art of Commander arm wrestling Equius and Coleasquid cosplaying Kratos, so it isn't all bad.

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#2604: May 16th 2016 at 12:09:06 PM

I'm inclined to go with the "faded colors = spirit" idea. I mean, 'Squid could have gone with the reddish orb used to represent G that the appropriate parts of the game used, but it works better in comic form to depict Ganondorf's body. Also, totally different narrative purposes in each case (Cia's meant to be the focus at that part of the game, while G is meant to be the focus in the comic).

Also, amused that Ganondorf glossed over the part where someone other than Link actually took the Triforce of Power from him. Sure, he still got closer than almost any other attempt at taking over Hyrule, but that was a pretty huge setback.

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#2605: May 16th 2016 at 2:02:09 PM

There was also that time King Daphnes pulled an Oolong on him at the last second.

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#2606: May 17th 2016 at 7:42:14 AM

Well, I said "almost" for a reason. There was also the time when he possessed the complete Triforce and turned the Golden Land into the Dark World, and succeeded in opening a portal to Hyrule to take that over too. Those two incidents and Hyrule Warriors are the three times Ganondorf was able to possess the complete Triforce, and thus his closest to victory.

edited 17th May '16 7:42:22 AM by 32_Footsteps

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#2607: May 17th 2016 at 7:59:29 AM

Wasn't there talk in this very thread that he gave the triforce to Cia on purpose as part of his master plan?

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#2608: May 17th 2016 at 8:12:26 AM

That is ambiguous. She had the Triforce of power, but it's entirely possible that it was already in her possession before the game began. After all, Ganondorf was, at the time, split into four and sealed away, and Cia's task was to watch over the balance of the Triforce.

In any case, Ganondorf tried to take the Triforce, in its entirety, away from Cia when he got 3 of his soul pieces together. Cia responded by using it to banish him again with a wish. That ultimately led to her downfall, as it caused Wisdom and Courage to return to Zelda and Link, but Ganondorf didn't get Power from her. It wasn't until he got his fourth soul fragment, Cia had fallen, and Lana had Power in her possession, but sealed away instead of directly using it that he was able to storm the Valley of Seers with a new army and take the Triforce pieces by force.

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#2609: May 17th 2016 at 8:25:22 AM

@2607 It actually looks like the entire thing was a Xanatos Gambit on behalf of Ganondorf. He inspired Cia to take control of the Triforce of Power and seek the other two pieces. Once she did, he manifested at part strength and attempted to take the complete Triforce from her. He knew that, even at part power, he was stronger than her. There were two ways it could have gone. One, he could have wrested the complete Triforce from her, and then use that power to get back his final soul remnant and reach full power. Otherwise (and what actually happens in-game), she would have to use the Triforce to stop him, which would cause her to lose Courage and Wisdom, meaning that Link would be able to defeat her via using the Master Sword - which would mean drawing it and freeing Ganondorf's last soul fragment. No matter what, Ganondorf would get his soul (and thus full power) back.

All he had to do then was overcome the three bearers of the Triforce (at that point, Lana, Link, and Zelda) to get the complete Triforce... and he does.

For how Cia got the Triforce of Power in the first place, I think she acquired it either on her own or was entrusted with it before she purged Lana from herself. I think they would have said if Ganondorf (who wasn't even complete at the time) handed it off to her.

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#2610: May 17th 2016 at 9:52:09 AM

I love Coelasquid's Ganondorf. I gotta get a Wii U sometime. I just picked up Hyrule Warriors for 3DS but I'm sure the console version's better.

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#2611: May 17th 2016 at 10:52:11 AM

Honestly, the WiiU version is almost identical to the 3DS version storywise. The differences in terms of the story are that Linkle's Tale and the Wind Waker segments (which, you'll note, do not involve Ganondorf at all) aren't in there. Everything involving Big G in the 3DS version is in the WiiU version (though some of the unlockables, like outfits and the trident, are DLC).

Mind you, for gameplay purposes, there is plenty of reason to get the WiiU version (quicker to unlock the more powerful weapons, much higher level cap at this time, more onscreen foes at once). But if you're a huge Ganondorf fan, both versions give you the same stuff.

EDIT: Oh, technically, I should point out that gameplay is also different if you don't have Internet access and thus lack access to the patches for the WiiU version. This is primarily important because the patches gave Ganondorf some really sweet buffs (plus the Game-Breaker "Hasty Attacks" weapon skill became available). The 3DS version has those patches built in, so if you switch to an unpatched WiiU version, Ganondorf will significantly suffer in terms of play quality (Zant, spear Lana, and Impa, I believe, are the others most affected by this).

edited 17th May '16 12:46:06 PM by 32_Footsteps

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#2612: May 17th 2016 at 4:03:26 PM

Interestingly enough, every time Ganon(dorf) has possessed the full triforce he always blows it on a wish, I've always wondered what would happen if he acquired the full triforce and instead used it's respective power up to knock link around.

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#2613: May 17th 2016 at 4:04:36 PM

Well, that's Hyrule Warriors.

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#2614: May 17th 2016 at 7:16:30 PM

Also, if you're not on the new 3DS the slowdown and pop-in are insane.

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#2615: May 18th 2016 at 5:54:19 AM

As said in @2613, that's what Hyrule Warriors is. Ganondorf takes over Hyrule almost as a side effect of acquiring the full Triforce (specifically, the mission where you control him as he lays siege to Hyrule Castle is to beat Link and Zelda to get the other two pieces - once Ganondorf does so, Hyrule Castle is pretty much undefended). Side note, said mission is also the first time that I recall ever seeing Link and/or Zelda call upon the power of their respective pieces of Triforce (they use it to rain siege down on the keeps Ganondorf controls, and yeah, it'll hurt Big G too).

In fact, the final level (or at least, the final level of the original scenario) does involve a powered-up Ganondorf, but he's only getting a passive boost due to possession of the complete Triforce. He doesn't actually draw on its power until Link fells him in battle... and that's when Ganon comes out to play... cheesy bastard.

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#2616: May 18th 2016 at 6:20:41 AM

Well, I think the evil lightning storm might be from the Triforce power.

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#2617: May 18th 2016 at 6:32:53 AM

That could be... though wasn't there another level where evil lightning storms came up that weren't Triforce-powered?

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#2619: May 23rd 2016 at 1:12:54 PM

Let's be fair, Big G had downed several depth charges (based on the number of shot glasses surrounding him here). It's not that he can't handle his liquor, he just went out to get totally wasted. And Commander B looks like he both had less and is a genetically enhanced soldier from the nondescript space future who probably was built to process alcohol better than most people. I don't think Ganondorf can't handle his liquor... I think it's just showing that he doesn't have it as together as previously suggested, and he's finally letting the lid off.

Also, yeah, the whole Twinrova thing was messed up. That alone is probably years of therapy for Ganondorf.

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#2620: May 23rd 2016 at 1:43:39 PM

Also in the Cia strip he seems to have switched to straight-up hard liquors on the rocks rather than diluting them in beer.

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#2621: May 23rd 2016 at 3:12:10 PM

I bet the inherent magic within Ganondorf prevents him from getting drunk off the basics, hence wanting to glut so much of it every time.

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#2622: May 24th 2016 at 7:53:40 AM

@2620 I don't think diluting matters that much when you still drink a total volume of alcohol sufficient to get you drunk. It might matter how fast you get there, though it looks like this plotline started with Ganondorf well on the way.

I suppose the specific mechanics don't matter. Ganondorf is blitzed right now.

@2621 I mean, he's also just a big guy. I know it's not a perfect estimation (given how many other factors there are); but, all other things being equal, larger people typically need to consume more alcohol before they get drunk.

Oh, side note, what do you think was worse for Ganondorf - bringing guys over to hang out, or introducing his moms to girlfriends?

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Adannor Since: May, 2010
#2623: May 24th 2016 at 8:10:50 AM

Well it matters as alcohol percentage of your total stomach capacity.

But yeah. He went to get blitzed and he got what he wanted.

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#2624: May 24th 2016 at 12:33:03 PM

Has Ganon ever even had a canon love interest?

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#2625: May 24th 2016 at 12:45:19 PM

[up]He did not. Guy's married to the job.

edited 24th May '16 12:45:34 PM by Kayeka


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