Castle

I know, just reporting on the rumors because they're the only thing to report. Party line is "Budget concerns" but, really, budget concerns are what killed White Collar. Pretty sure if it were budget concerns, they'd be wrapping up the show because both their stars are/have been big names.

Cancelled after the Season finale.

I'm actually glad they cancelled the show instead. I wouldn't want to keep watching it without Beckett.

Ouch.

That's a lot of really good actors and production crew without a regular job now, and the American economy still isn't really all that buoyant. I guess ABC took the fans' bad reaction to their plans to move on without Katic as a sign just to kill the show - "it's our ball and we don't want to play with it anymore, and you can't either."

Liked this show whenever I caught it playing, a shame it had to go, even if going on without Beckett would've been a bad idea.

Is there a silver lining? Hmm... maybe we're a step closer to a Firefly revival?

Whedon's still working with Marvel, isn't he? Then there's Baccarin working on other stuff and raising a family. Sure, Fillion's going to be loose, but Torres is still in Suits for at least another season. They did have Jewell Staite in the episode of Castle before this last one. Not sure what Glau is doing. Unless they're rebooting Firefly or just making an interquel between it and Serenity, they won't have Tudyk back.

That leaves the actor who played Simon, and that should be it. Somehow I don't think this is happening.

Some kind of "Firefly" reunion could be possible. Even if it's just a TV movie on Syfy.

To be honest if some cast members couldn't appear in the reunion due to scheduling conflicts (such as Adam Baldwin on The Last Ship) it wouldn't totally bother me...... although Summer Glau would be a must.

Fan sentiment aside, the last time they got together wasn't all that successful, and they killed off two of the more interesting members of the crew.

I'd not be on board for a Firefly reunion, is what I'm saying.

I'd be on boardg for a reunion and 'passing the mantle' thing. So they can set up a sequel series without the original cast. Or however many episodes to properly set that up.

but that probably doesn't belong in this thread.

Do you think we'll end up getting Castle movies at some future point, folks? Sort of like what happened with "Columbo"and "Cagney and Lacey"?

It depends on the truth behind the rumors. If this really is budget concerns, with the rumors being false, then Castle movies could be a thing. If the budgetary stuff is either a cover story, or related to the feuds being real, then I doubt we'll see anything more than tonight's episode.

Well that was... and ending, I guess. But it feels like they tried to cram an entire plot into the last 10 minutes and didn't really explain some of the twists. It also didn't feel very much like a definitive ending. If it had been a two-hour finale, it probably would have been much better.

But I sincerely hope all the actors get to move on to other great projects. I really loved them all.

edited 16th May '16 8:07:09 PM by Nintendork64

I'm just happy it was a happy ending without any cliffhangers.

That's true. And it's great that it got 8 seasons in the first place. Most shows don't get a chance to live that long.

You know honestly, I was expecting some kind of last minute St. Elsewhere type ending where it would be revealed that the whole series was a book series written by Castle's daughter. But, I guess that would have been cheesy, and would have opened too many questions.

It was a great finale overall, although I did have some nitpicks regarding it, but most of my nitpicks stem from the finale not originally being a finale in the first place.

It's a shame that Castle's father couldn't have shown up, as it was clearly hinted that they intended to do more with that character, but I guess they never got around to it.

They probably would have done that for a season nine.

I haven't watched the finale yet, so I'll hold discussion of it for after I have.

What the fucking Hell kind of ending was that? They both get shot so it looks like they're going to die, and then we get some kind of future epilogue where they have kids seven years later and that's all she wrote. Would have been better if they'd just dropped the idea of a tacked on happy epilogue and ended with the two of them dying together after having wiped out Locksat's group.

I hear ya.

BTW, based on what creator Andrew Marlowe has said on twitter, i get the feeling he wasn't too pleased with the finale either.

The finale needed to be longer. A happy ending would have been just fine, but they didn't give it enough time to unfold properly. No explanation, no nothing. We're left just assuming all the shots were non-fatal and they were saved. We don't even see them leaving the force or anything. Just . . . that ending. It's like a video placard. Or a memorial. To me it felt more like a memorial than a real future for the characters. Like they actually did die and this was an alternate reality we got to view just to soothe our battered feelings. That was not a happy ending. It was the ghost of one.

It's almost like they had the season finale ready to go, and then they got the news of the cancellation a week before it aired and they threw together an epilogue

edited 20th May '16 12:11:10 AM by frosty

You're not far off the mark.

Really it all could have been avoided if the writers and producers had;t jumped the gun and just assumed they were going to get renewed and went through the whole ordeal of dropping Stana and Tamala. They should have just assumed they were going to get canned, and made a more proper Season Finale with no actual cliffhanger, like they did the previous season.

One, he was beinf sarcastic.

Two...there was very little time to "assume" they were going to be cancelled because they only got word, what a month ago that Stana and Tamala weren't coming back?

Um, no. They had two endings. The shooting one, which they WANTED to use because they didn't want to be cancelled. And the epilogue one, which they fucking hated because they didn't want to be cancelled. When they found out they weren't coming back, the station wasn't willing to go through the effort of filming some smoothing over scenes that would make the epilogue actually work, so they just pasted it onto the ending to fill the time.

See, if the studio had hired GOOD writers to replace the show runners who left, this could all have been avoided because they wouldn't have lost the ratings they did. Since they let just anybody write an episode, they wound up losing ratings so hard that a cancellation was inevitable. They MIGHT have gotten a proper closing with a short season if they hadn't dropped Stana and Tamala and caused most of their few still-loyal fans to drop them.

ETA: Remember folks, there've been talks of cancelling this show since LAST season. There's no way in Hell being cancelled should have been a surprise to them. These writers were deluded as fuck, and unskilled as newbies. Hell, at least one of them only has two credits to her freaking name, and one of them was a Castle episode. They dropped the ball when running the show, and they paid the damn price for it.

edited 20th May '16 5:34:46 AM by Journeyman