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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#117501: Jul 19th 2017 at 9:35:46 AM

Buzz in the original movie seemed to have false memories of his time as a space ranger. It would be pretty creepy/ funny if the toys (with YMX's help) manage to convince Sora that he has always been a toy and that all his memories are just false backstory. Leading Sora to have his own "I Will Go Sailing No More" scene after he attempts to beat a foe over the head with his plastic keyblade, only to have his palstic arm broken off.

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#117502: Jul 19th 2017 at 9:48:09 AM

And now we've gone down the rabbit hole.

On your left, you can see the last piece of my sanity drinking tea and contemplating the end...

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#117503: Jul 19th 2017 at 10:22:25 AM

The implication was that Buzz Lightyears (and their line, if Zurg is any indication) think they're real because of all the electronics and stuff in them. Like, they have so much programming that they're convinced their backstories are true.

From the footage, Sora looks like a regular wooden doll, so...don't see that being an issue at all.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#117504: Jul 19th 2017 at 11:40:37 AM

Speaking of Zurg, who's up for a fight against him?

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#117505: Jul 19th 2017 at 11:41:14 AM

I'd be hyped as shit for a Heartless Zurg boss fight.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#117506: Jul 19th 2017 at 11:43:14 AM

[up][up] Presumably a darkness-powered Zurg? Yeah, I'd be up for that.

...I do wonder, though, what sort of abilities Buzz and Woody will have, especially Buzz. His most obvious weapon, his laser, is just a lightbulb, after all. Perhaps some sort of Keyblade-granted power-up? Alternatively, it is technically light...

edited 19th Jul '17 11:43:27 AM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#117507: Jul 19th 2017 at 11:55:49 AM

"I know now, without a doubt...

"Kingdom Hearts...

"IS BUZZ'S LIGHTBULB!"

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#117509: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:23:52 PM

[up][up][up]Buzz was doing some kind of spinny move in the trailer, so they might just be doing some toy martial art shenanigans. Ol' Space Ranger does have that karate chop action.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#117510: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:29:36 PM

[up]x2 The most interesting part of that interview is the fact that Disney has considered making a Kingdom Hearts movie.

I think Bonus Bosses are a given. The question is who the bosses will be.

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kablammin45 La Lézarde from Misty Brook (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
La Lézarde
#117511: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:34:07 PM

Aside from previous bosses in the KH series...maybe a character from a recent movie doesn't have time to be represented with a world? Like maybe Tamatoa?

"Pardon me, that extremely loud and extremely deep voice you may have just heard. It was me. Oh, it is such a long story..."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#117512: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:36:28 PM

Really late to this but, the Toy Story world might be the single most impressive thing SE has done with KH on a technical and artistic level. Like, it's uncanny how good the Toy Story characters look. They've always been really good at capturing the general aesthetic and expressions of the Disney characters but never to a level that reaches the quality of the movies, like here. I'm not surprised that the Toy Story team was impressed with them.

Also, it doesn't necessarily guarantee anything but I'm happy that Nomura met with Lasseter to talk about his plans for the Toy Story world. Honestly, I think they should do that sort of thing more often if the schedule allows it.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#117513: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:38:36 PM

Well, let's see what the track record for Bonus Bosses is:

  • Kingdom Hearts: Kurt Zisa (Heartless), Phantom (Heartless), Xemnas (Main villain of next game), Ice Titan (Disney), Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)
  • Chain of Memories: N/A
  • Kingdom Hearts II: Organization XIII Data (Villains of present game), Sephiroth (Final Fantasy), Terra (Major character of upcoming game)
  • 358/2 Days: Dustflier (Heartless)
  • Birth by Sleep: Monstro (Disney), Vanitas Remnant (Villain of present game), Armor of the Master (Character of present game), No Heart (Villain of present game), Young Xehanort (Villain of upcoming game), Various Mirage Arena Unversed
  • Re:Coded: Bugged Data Roxas (Character of present game), Bugged Data Riku (Character of present game)
  • Dream Drop Distance: Julius (Disney)
  • X: ???

Based off of the patterns, chances are that it'll be a big Heartless, some kind of upgraded form of a character in the game, or a villain from an upcoming arc.

I guess Disney is still a possibility, though.

edited 19th Jul '17 1:45:17 PM by Hobgoblin

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#117514: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:40:03 PM

They should have another surprise boss like Julius. I was very pleased to hear about him being in 3D.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#117515: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:40:42 PM

[up]x2 You forgot that I also has Ice Titan, while BBS has the Mirage Arena Unversed and Vanitas Remnant.

[up] Darth Vader or riot.

edited 19th Jul '17 1:41:16 PM by Karxrida

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#117516: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:46:03 PM

I think Nomura probably wants to include him, honestly. SE is full of huge SW fans, I think it's probably just legal reasons (I believe theEA deal kind of puts a damper on what SE could do with the franchise).

PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#117517: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:46:54 PM

I would have thought it's been so long since Sephy was beat in II that having him back wouldn't be terrible.

I wonder if his and Cloud's subplot would be resolved and Sephy would be Killed Off for Real.

I do think Nomura's comments on Sephy were amusing.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#117518: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:50:20 PM

Eh, I've never been a fan of how Seph and Cloud have been depicted in KH so I wouldn't mind Seph taking a break. I think the ambiguous nature of what happened at the end of their confrontation in 2 actually works fine as an ending to that subplot, even though arguably the ambiguous everything else regarding their rivalry in KH really didn't help it any.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#117519: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:52:49 PM

I think Nomura is actually a Star Wars fanboy himself. I wish the EA exclusivity deal wasn't a thing, because Star Wars could fill out a Kingdom Hearts game all by itself or make for good DLC.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#117520: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:56:14 PM

Well if he isn't he could have fooled me. It was kind of easy to tell even back in KH 1 FM with the Xemnas boss fight and since then it's only become more and more apparent.

I guess Zurg is the closest we'll get lol

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#117521: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:57:42 PM

Cloud and Sephiroth have fought so many times now that I'm honestly tired of it. Cloud beat him up as a kid, even if it was him stabbing him from behind. And then he beat him twice more as an adult. And that's just in the context of the VII universe.

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Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#117522: Jul 19th 2017 at 1:59:50 PM

[up] Do we ever get a reason for Cloud to be chasing Sepiroth in the Kingdom Hearts universe?

Or is it just a matter of interpretation and one could easily imagine it being a case of Sepiroth owing Cloud thirty bucks?

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#117523: Jul 19th 2017 at 2:03:34 PM

Do we ever get a reason for Cloud to be chasing Sepiroth in the Kingdom Hearts universe?

Nope. That's part of the problem, the rivalry within KH has no context. I played VII not too long ago and in that game you actually understand why Cloud hates Sephiroth so much and why their relationship has so much weight to it because of what it says about both of them.

In KH though we don't have any of that. In KH 2 all we get are meaningless buzzwords and generic dialogue from Sephiroth about how Cloud can't run away from his darkness/past/whatever, and it's really hokey and tells us basically nothing. It also kind of ruins Sephiroth's character in my opinion, in VII he's actually quite creepy and unhinged but I can't take him seriously in KH at all. It makes that subplot completely devoid of any narrative weight, it's literally just fanservice.

edited 19th Jul '17 2:05:25 PM by Draghinazzo

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#117524: Jul 19th 2017 at 2:37:14 PM

KH 3 D also had rematch portals with the various world bosses (aside from Ansem and Xemnas).

Rematch Spellican is no fuckin' joke.

I have a message from another time...
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#117525: Jul 19th 2017 at 6:25:14 PM

Cloud will be in Kingdom Hearts 3 before FF 7 Remake

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