Series/Sherlock

Well, Milverton was a little bit more limited because it was a different time, he could hardly do what he did on such a large scale. But he did have control over the London society, which was practically owning England.

I think the suicide assignment wasn't so much for killing Magnusson as for handing him stolen state secrets.

And then that turned out to be a four minutes exile which is kinda an anti-climax.

Sherlock is not out of the woods yet. He is basically on probation, and if he steps out of line, he might be back on the plane very, very fast.

That's the hope I have for series 4, not Sherlock going to jail, but that the show actually bothers to explore the rammifications of everything that happened the previous season, though considering the way they handled series 3 I'm not too optimistic.

They spend a whole episode on the ramifications of season 2.

I just developed a spontaneous headcanon that theimprobableone is Kitty Winter. I'd love to see her reimagined as a computer specialist/hacker of some sort.

I was thinking about how they'd do "The Illustrious Client", because it's a great story, but it's based on an outdated gender dynamic i.e., the idea that you can "ruin" a woman by having consensual sex with her. But when you consider all the new ways to target and humiliate people- particularly women- in the age of the Internet- leaked nude photos, "revenge porn", amassing online death threats against someone, impersonation, rapey "pickup" techniques, leaking personal information, etc, it shows that there's so many ways it can be done. A modern Gruner could do any of those things, and it'd give Kitty a fitting way of taking him down that wouldn't result in severe assault/grievous bodily harm charges for her (as her original way of defeating him inevitably would these days).

Also, Kitty should have lots of tattoos, which could give them the title of the episode.

"The Illustrated Client"?

I like it!

edited 12th Nov '14 7:42:35 PM by Wackd

Precisely.

Lol, I like the idea as well, Papercut Chainsaw, but it is not an idea you want executed by Moffat and his pals. That description of Gruner would sound downright romantic to him.

What? By what logic?

If anything, I'd say that online harassment is a form of misogyny that Moffat would understand very well and could depict sensitively - remember that he himself had to quit Twitter from the sheer number of people harassing him. And he probably has some idea of what Amanda Abbington goes through because of Mary (and from the REAL crazies, the simple fact that she is in a relationship with Martin Freeman is enough to provoke outrage). Romantic? Nope. No way.

Adapting the story is complex, because it's mostly about Holmes and Watson trying to save an unwitting and naive damsel in distress who has been "hypnotised" by the nefarious villain, but Kitty is arguably what lifts this story above the less memorable ones in the Canon. She's jaded, vicious, cares nothing about the damsel, and yet her sense of justice (or possibly just revenge) is what ensures that the villain is truly punished, when he otherwise would have walked away scot-free despite Holmes saving the girl.

I think Moffat's biggest blunder on the gender front last season was denying the anonymous heroine of CAM her agency in killing the bad guy- Moff actually said he always thought it was, in universe, made up by Watson to cover the fact that he and Holmes killed Milverton themselves (um, no). You can't do that with this story- Kitty's role is just too memorable to ignore. I agree that it could go badly, but this could be a chance to appeal to Moffat's love of clever, fierce female characters without falling into the femme fatale/dominatrix mold.

So, um, new image for the Christmas special.◊ Possible spoilers. Sherlock and John look... different.

Let the speculation begin...

My theories for this development, in order of plausibility:

Coma dream

Molly's fanfic

Alternate reality

Weeping Angels

Derren Brown.

edited 26th Nov '14 6:22:00 AM by PapercutChainsaw

Murder Mystery costume party....

Sherlock meets Vastra and Jenny.

Thought about that too, though that moustache looks a bit too intense for a mere costume. Also, one of Arwel's pictures seemed to show an alternate 221B exterior.

Nah, they are just doing a tribute to the Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson - in this show - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_(1984_TV_series) - as that is the same sort of top hat that Brett wore all the time in that show.

But what would the in-universe reason be? It's been stated that they will be dressed like that in the episode.

I was looking at the catalogue for the ABC Shop, seeing what was there, if there was something I wanted or to get for my cousins, and I saw this. I kind of want it, but I already have one that never gets played.

edited 4th Dec '14 8:31:54 PM by thekikoperson

Fifty dollars for a classic board game? Let's see, there's the licensing and adaptation markup, and there's likely an importation markup, and there's the "you can assume everything in Australia is imported so prices are expected to be high, let's increase our margins a bit" markup, but I still don't think I'd pay that much for it without a DVD component.

Here's something that, for entirely unknown but I'm sure geeky reasons, has been bugging me. Why's everybody calling Sherlock "Sherlock"? I know it's the choice of the writers and such to name the show that and have people refer to him that way, but they were always "Holmes" and "Watson," not "Sherlock" and "John". I've seen it happen in other places in media too (and it was picked up over at the, IMO much inferior "Elementary") where people are starting to call Holmes "Sherlock". Grumble Grumble...get off my lawn....grumble.

In the Edwardian era, calling someone by just their surname, without any titles or honorifics like "Mister", was a level of familiarity reserved for close friends. In the modern day, this translates to a first-name basis. Holmes and Watson become Sherlock and John, Sherlock and Mycroft would become Shirley and Mike to each other if they were that sort of people.

These days, calling someone by their unadorned surname is much more brusque. It's a boss talking to his subordinates or between frosty colleagues.

edited 4th Dec '14 10:54:36 PM by TParadox

That.

In the modern era, while it is still respectful to refer to him as Dr. Watson in matters pertaining to his profession, anyone with a personal familiarity would sound cold and detached to do so, and would be expected instead to refer to him as John. The same holds true for Sherlock.

It would have been disrespectful to refer to them by first name in the original era the novels were set in, but it would also be disrespectful to refrain from doing so in the present day the show is set in.

edited 5th Dec '14 8:04:51 AM by TobiasDrake

The names were actually something the writers debated long about, according to the DVD commentary. Being Holmes fans, it felt odd for them first, too, but the surname didn't feel right either for a modern version.

Fun Fact: Whoever wrote the German script missed a perfect opportunity to let the switch from "sie" to "du", which caused some really odd sounding dialogues until they found another opportunity in the third season.