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They said it was a young woman and (I think) a Princess.
So it was either Beatrice or Eugenie.
edited 16th Feb '12 4:40:34 AM by Medicus
It's not over. Not yet.
It's super effective.
Edit: Screw it, I'm not starting this.
edited 16th Feb '12 6:15:08 AM by OldManHoOh
SYMBOLISM!!!!
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
... from the "Your Highness" adress, it could also be Kate Middleton... ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
...wise words.
edited 16th Feb '12 10:57:28 AM by karasu91
Change, my dear, and not a moment too soon.
The second time? You mean, the story based on the novel where Sherlock Holmes is constantly outwitted by a smug newcomer in an extended affair who happened to be an actress?
I think River's character as expanded on in Series 6 was heavily informed by Adler, and vice versa.
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You might have liked the episode better if you stuck around to the bit where Sherlock utterly ruins her plans, then switched the television off, Medicus.
I actually thought that her dynamic with Sherlock and the exploration of his asexuality was the most interesting element involving her. The arc's done now, though, so I hope we don't see her again in the series.
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I did see that part because I was walking in and out of the room.
For a virtual telemovie, nothing much happened in it.
It was Victorian England. Disguising herself as a man was about as scandalous as greeting a stranger naked in her own home is today.
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Doesn't mean the story had to be "modernised" the way it was.
It's not over. Not yet.
Justification be damned, then?
And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
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What justification?
It's not over. Not yet.
That the Sherlock Scan doesn't work if there's nothing to scan. That and her measurements were the whole point of the exercise.
And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
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Unrelated: I find the casting for Elementary
amusing. It's almost poetic.
Remakes aside, I think Elementary is just a terrible title.
"Weird doors open. People fall into things."
Seconded. If your modernizing it, don't half-ass it. No one says "elementary" anymore, and if they do it's because they're referencing Holmes, which in the universe they've set up would make no fucking sense.
Unless this Holmes is, like, the great-grandson of the original.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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Maybe we've got it all wrong, and the show actually showcases the adventures of a ten year old Holmes and Watson.
It's not over. Not yet.
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
So they get sued by Gosho Aoyama instead of BBC ;P?
edited 17th Feb '12 4:24:15 AM by 3of4
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I thought Sherlock never ACTUALLY said "Elementary" in any of the books?
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Holmes says "elementary" several times in the Canon. He never says "Elementary, my dear Watson", which is what is commonly attributed.
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Epic 15 page Thread Hop, since there is little point in me reading a thread full of spoilers.
I just watched episode 2, and while it was overall pretty entertaining there are a lot of little things bringing it down in my view. Most of them I can ignore, though the climax was completely ridiculous. The show was attempting to make the scene tense by threatening Disposable-Girlfriend but she was never actually in danger except by her own stupidity. All she had to do was tip her chair over and the crossbow would have fired over her head. John tipped his chair over right in front of her, did she not notice? Anyway, that's not really important.
The only major complaint I have with the show is that Watson seems to be rapidly devolving into the standard useless-idiot Watson that I thought this show was trying to avoid. In the entire episode he didn't do a single useful thing except take a picture of the wall. I know Sherlock is the main character, but they really ought to try and find a way to make John significant to the plot of each episode. Even in the first episode he really didn't matter that much, all he did was shoot the villain when he was already caught.
I think this show is pretty damn good as far as tv goes, but I think it would greatly benefit from being cut back to 1 hour length. There seems to be a lot of padding and none of the cases so far have been anywhere near complex enough to need that much time.
Simple question for the fans, does John get more useful as the show goes on or is it pretty much all Sherlock? I'll probably still keep watching even if he remains purely sidekick, but I have to admit I'll be a bit disappointed..
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John's useful in the other episodes, he just has an unusually bad idiot ball in The Blind Banker. It's generally considered the worst (least good? Well it's good but not as good) of the episodes too. Don't be discouraged, The Great Game is a lot better.
Also in terms of length, off the top of my head there was a lot in the next episode that fit into the hour and a half better.
edited 17th Feb '12 1:40:02 PM by Hermiethefrog
That's encouraging, cause I still thought it was a good episode even if I did get bored for a little while about 45 minutes in.
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The main thing I like about The Blind Banker is John trying to have a normal life despite Sherlock and somewhat succeeding, since she doesn't flee from him as fast as she can after it's all over, and she's still dating him in the next episode.
Then Scandal in Belgravia ruined it.
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How did Belgravia ruin it? If it was Watson going through all those girlfriends, that's just part of his character since way back.
It's not over. Not yet.
Yes, but I thought the point of the girl from the first season wasz that he'd found someone who'll stick by him through Sherlock's craziness and the adventures, and then two episodes later not only has she left him, so have two or three other women, and the one he's with now is petty enough to leave him because he canceled their plans due so he could be on drug/suicide watch for his best friend.
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The Queens Dogs.
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