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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#601: May 11th 2020 at 6:23:54 AM

Freeloadable Content?

Even if it’s free, it’s still DLC.

It’s unfortunate that that rhymes, but I stand by it.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#602: May 11th 2020 at 6:33:39 AM

That's not really how DLC is commonly defined, people don't complain about loads of DLC while counting the free patches. It's more or less universally known to mean "downloadable content that costs money".

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#603: May 11th 2020 at 6:50:04 AM

Sure, I guess, but the qualifier isn’t “FLC,” it’s just “free DLC.”

The letters in DLC stand for DownLoadable Content. Whether it’s free or paid, it’s still DLC.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#604: May 11th 2020 at 6:52:17 AM

I would say that ease of use is more important than acronym logic. You're certainly correct that "free DLC" makes more sense, but it's also more unwieldy so FLC is naturally going to win.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#605: May 11th 2020 at 6:58:22 AM

Except it doesn’t/hasn’t? No one uses that as an abbreviation.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#607: May 11th 2020 at 7:04:12 AM

It almost feels like you’re conflating “DLC” as an abbreviation with “FTP” (free to play). Which does exist and is regularly used, but means something very different.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#608: May 11th 2020 at 7:16:10 AM

I see some hair splitting going on

-shakes head-

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#609: May 11th 2020 at 7:20:12 AM

Yeah, this discussion was never going anywhere.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#610: May 11th 2020 at 7:24:47 AM

Except it doesn’t/hasn’t? No one uses that as an abbreviation.

It's used extensively in the Total War community, just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean that it's not used.

Regardless, this conversation has become tiresome. You may hold whatever opinion you wish, I will continue to use the term "FLC".

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#611: May 11th 2020 at 7:29:24 AM

I was gonna make an EVA joke but I misremembered the actual acronym. Oh well.

But speaking of which, any of the books in World of Darkness could fit in a plot about awekening and ancient weapon of destruction that just happens to look like a giant robot?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#612: May 11th 2020 at 7:31:04 AM

Heh, that's something you'd be far more likely to see in Mage the Ascension tongue

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#613: May 11th 2020 at 8:17:35 AM

Antediluvian come fairly close to the Angels in terms of inscrutability and power levels though, so could also have that element!

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#614: May 11th 2020 at 8:56:08 AM

Yeah, but you only have something that resembles the plot of NEG if you make it cross-splat and include the Technocracy.

Which isn't really a good idea for a number of reasons.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on May 11th 2020 at 8:59:34 AM

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JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#615: May 11th 2020 at 9:35:29 AM

...Yeah reality warpers are.... bad news. Kill Sats as a special move plus all the other blatant CHEATING they do gets frustrating.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#616: May 11th 2020 at 9:46:57 AM

Indeed, the Camarilla's entire thing is that they control the world, which is impossible to take seriously when there is another shadowy world government who actually has kill sats and legions of cloned killers.

Not to mention all the other issues with mixing them, such as mutually exclusive metaphysics.

Vampires fit just fine in mage-games, mostly as mooks, but mages don't fit in Vampire games. At all.

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#617: May 11th 2020 at 10:35:06 AM

Yeah, maybe only as a peripheral, Outside-Context Problem that you don't really deal with, it just "goes away".

Werewolf folds over well, the others I know are more of a mixed bag.

Really wanted to play it with a group one time, but it is an emotionally gruelling game if done right!

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#618: May 11th 2020 at 10:39:40 AM

I wasn't planning on mixing them, BTW, just which one would be easier to set such a story in.

JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#619: May 11th 2020 at 11:00:43 AM

Well in Vampire, Antedeluvians would be your go to OHSHITITSAHORRIFYINGMONSTER.

That or a Tzmitsce construct.

Mage... yeah they can do the robots.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#620: May 11th 2020 at 11:17:45 AM

[up][up]Certainly.

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#621: May 11th 2020 at 12:50:31 PM

yeah, even from the mage Po V the only reason the Technocracy doesnt bug vampires is they tend to help keep the masquerade running so theyre less paperwork for the technocrats to ignore

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#622: May 11th 2020 at 12:51:15 PM

The Technocracy just ignores and "explains" anything that totally destroys their worldview.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#623: May 11th 2020 at 1:20:36 PM

This isn't really the thread but that isn't quite accurate. If anyone's interested in taking the conversation to the appropriate thread, if it exists, I'd be happy to go there smile

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on May 11th 2020 at 1:21:20 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#624: May 11th 2020 at 2:45:33 PM

Interesting that despite how flashy magic is there is yet to be a game based off Mage:The Awakening,I assume if Bloodlines 2 and Werewolf are successful it will inspire them to look at other properties

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#625: May 11th 2020 at 2:47:10 PM

Neither Mage the Ascension nor Mage the Awakening has a game yet.

Hopefully, Bloodlines 2 does well and we can get the chance.

I really want to get my Progenitor on.

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn

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