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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#68901: Aug 2nd 2015 at 12:25:48 PM

The Avatar has free will though. Raava doesn't really influence them at all from what we see. She just grants them the ability to bend all the elements and maintains their connection with the past lives. She might also be responsible for their actions during an involuntary Avatar State but we don't know that for sure.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#68902: Aug 2nd 2015 at 12:39:18 PM

I'm not saying that the Avatar isn't separate, I'm saying that the way the Avatar's personality develops may be indirectly influenced by being fused to a Spirit of Light and Order.

It all kind of depends on how "souls" work, I suppose.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#68903: Aug 2nd 2015 at 12:39:47 PM

Solid stones larger than houses, man.

Concrete probably saved lives.

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supermerlin100 Since: Sep, 2011
#68904: Aug 2nd 2015 at 12:40:45 PM

Free will doesn't mean unpredictable. Free will isn't the source of evil. It's not like most people are actually choosing evil.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#68905: Aug 2nd 2015 at 2:12:10 PM

I'll be honest, the use of incredibly abundant and abnormally tough platinum as an arbitrary side-step for the Story-Breaker Power that metalbending can be is a leedle BS.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#68906: Aug 2nd 2015 at 2:28:26 PM

I'm fine with it honestly. Metalbending is done when the earthbender moves the rock fragments that are still in the metal. Theoretically if you created a pure enough metal people shouldn't be able to bend it.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#68907: Aug 2nd 2015 at 2:31:04 PM

I'd be less mad if it wasn't platinum which is hilariously awful as armor and expensive. Plus I'm pretty sure the mining process is hella destructive and toxic.

Just say rolled homogeneous steel or titanium or composites or something. If it's about purity or refinement then proper armor grade steel is more than refined enough to get rid of all the bits of earth or whatever.

edited 2nd Aug '15 2:31:24 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Elfive Since: May, 2009
#68908: Aug 2nd 2015 at 2:31:22 PM

That mercury must have been more like metallic mud, really.

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#68909: Aug 2nd 2015 at 2:36:56 PM

I don't think the Avatar can be truly evil, not because of Raava, but because of Wan. The Avatars are reincarnations of each other. Sure, they have greatly different personality and methods, but I figure it is because their upbringing is different. Deep down, however they are all fundamentally good people because that is what Wan was. So I don't think a "sociopath Avatar" can actually happen for that reason.

A "completely misguided Avatar" could, though. They are not perfect and they are not omniscient. Just because they are "good", it doesn't mean they can project their goodness properly or even fairly. I could totally see a tyrannical Avatar, for example. For the "greater good", of course, but still tyrannical. Korra herself flirted with that possibility. Specially early on, she had the tendency to ignore what other people think to do what she decides it is good. Apply that in a large scale and that is a tyrant in the making. I think that was kinda the point of Kuvira, she was Korra with that mentality and an army.

randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#68910: Aug 2nd 2015 at 6:29:27 PM

Hey guys I have a couple of videos comparing Avatar and Korra videos.

Here's one I did a while ago of Combustion Man vs P'Li: link.

Here's a newer one of Azula vs Ming-Hua: link.

OmniGoat from New York, NY Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#68911: Aug 2nd 2015 at 6:39:07 PM

[up][up]The thing is, though, it is fundamentally good people that make the worst villains, because they will do the most heinous things in the name of what they see as righteous and good. Remember what Madara told Obito? About how he corrupted him because he was truly kind and loving at heart and would be a monster of turned?

edited 2nd Aug '15 6:39:41 PM by OmniGoat

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Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#68912: Aug 2nd 2015 at 6:43:16 PM

[up]Oh, yeah. I don't disagree. I was just addressing the "sociopath Avatar" comment. I would actually love if the next Avatar series had the Avatar as the villain.

Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#68913: Aug 2nd 2015 at 7:34:50 PM

It's the world of Avatar. Things like spirits, platinum, and daddy issues are commonplace.

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#68914: Aug 2nd 2015 at 10:05:20 PM

Note to self: Order a "My other ride is a sky bison" bumper sticker.

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#68915: Aug 4th 2015 at 7:02:18 AM

I really like the fact that the Kuvira conflict ended with Wu intending to dissolve the Earth Kingdom into a democracy of nation-states. The fundamental problem with opposing Kuvira is that her actions are entirely within the spirit of the Earth Kingdom's royalty. It's a nation founded on bloody conquest in the name of unification, with the specialness of its royal line coming simply from the fact that they are descended from the ruler who finally won the unification wars and brought the whole of the Earth Kingdom under his thumb.

The nation was founded not through diplomacy or peaceful alliance, but through people like Kuvira bringing the smaller states in line through intimidation and waging war on the larger. In keeping with Korra's central theme of change, Wu demonstrated an enlightened attitude in recognizing that, and transitioning the kingdom toward a new path that is better than the lawless anarchy Kuvira initially sought to rescue them from, but not so oppressive as either she or his power-hungry ancestors would have it.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#68916: Aug 4th 2015 at 7:39:13 AM

Wu is the greatest political thinker of the Avatarverse.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#68917: Aug 4th 2015 at 8:00:49 AM

I'm honestly curious if people like Amon and Kuvira will actually go on to inspire political movements in the Avatar world's future.

Jedthejedi Since: Jul, 2015
#68918: Aug 4th 2015 at 8:03:19 AM

I feel like the equalists would find some way to found their own country free from benders.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#68919: Aug 4th 2015 at 8:03:43 AM

Not if they have good education systems. That's kind of why we have history lessons.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#68920: Aug 4th 2015 at 8:04:49 AM

We have terms named after dictators like Hitler and Stalin. Maybe the future Avatar society will have Kuvirism.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#68921: Aug 4th 2015 at 8:09:07 AM

Wuism will be the default political philosophy of the future.

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#68923: Aug 4th 2015 at 8:31:06 AM

I feel like the victim mentality propagated by the Equalists will morph into non-benders rallying for equity benefits on grounds of being permanently handicapped by their lack of superpowers.

Which may actually be fair.

edited 4th Aug '15 8:31:48 AM by TobiasDrake

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#68924: Aug 4th 2015 at 8:31:57 AM

The Equalists never became a majority movement though.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#68925: Aug 4th 2015 at 8:33:11 AM

[up][up] Eh, not so sure. Like, Asami the rich heiress should get benefits because she doesn't have superpowers like Mako and Bolin the kids who had to eat garbage not to starve?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

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