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fakeangelbr The Awesomest Character from Fortaleza, Brazil Since: Jan, 2010
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#10252: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:06:42 PM

I would say it's worse?

I really didn't get what was going on in there and not just in terms of character motivation.

I mean, Kat and Dante show up but they are not really them, but Vergil treat them like they are?

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#10253: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:10:03 PM

Vergil's kinda not right in the head at this point.

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Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
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#10254: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:11:03 PM

So, nothing about my post about characterization? :B

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fakeangelbr The Awesomest Character from Fortaleza, Brazil Since: Jan, 2010
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#10255: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:12:50 PM

[up]At this point, saying that the characters are flat and one-dimensional is beating a dead horse.

[up][up]I guess?

Even so, the felt the story felt a little too crawling in my skin for my taste.

edited 22nd Mar '13 6:13:05 PM by fakeangelbr

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#10256: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:13:46 PM

I at least the dialogue and voice acting were a step up. It's a bit sad that they'd blatantly rip-off Bleach though.

[up][up]Nothing I can say at the moment other than that you hit the nail on the head.

edited 22nd Mar '13 6:14:04 PM by CrimsonFlameKnight

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#10257: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:14:33 PM

My point was not that the characters were flat and one-dimensional, my point was that they didn't work characterization into the exposition.

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Fairwood90 Since: Dec, 2011
#10258: Mar 24th 2013 at 5:00:00 AM

Hey guys, you wanna hear three guys who admit to never playing the original games agree with each other over how good this failure of a reboot is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQT5dFyxeo4

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#10259: Mar 24th 2013 at 6:26:14 AM

[up] I...fail to understand what is wrong with liking the game. So what if they didn't play the original games? If they enjoyed it, they enjoyed it.

I mean, unless there's any specific baseless judgement you'd like to point out in that video.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10260: Mar 24th 2013 at 7:47:10 AM

Actually, I'd say the fact that these individuals never liked the originals but dug the reboot means this new game did it's job.

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#10261: Mar 24th 2013 at 8:03:48 AM

The game did not do hot financially because the genre is apparently pretty niche, and when you A) Alienate your fanbase that IS dedicated and B) fail to attract a new audience, what do you get?

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#10262: Mar 24th 2013 at 10:53:46 AM

The problem I have with the video is not that they like it (they are free to like what they want), it's that they still claim that the reboot is better and then admit that they didn't play the original games. So Sessler saying that Original Vergil was a forgettable character when he has never even played DMC 3 is a bit weird to hear.

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#10263: Mar 24th 2013 at 11:02:37 AM

Oh that was SPOILED GAMES! Sorry I just assumed you were talking about some other lets player on youtube and didn't open the link.

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#10264: Mar 24th 2013 at 11:48:39 AM

I think the video is a bit more critical of Dm C than I was expecting. Not that I agree with everything, like their comparisons to the old games.

Nettacki Since: Jan, 2010
#10265: Mar 24th 2013 at 11:59:02 AM

What [up][up][up] said. But is it possible for them to say things like "Vergil was boring in DMC 3" if all they did was read up plot summaries or watch cutscenes on Youtube?

edited 24th Mar '13 11:59:14 AM by Nettacki

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#10266: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:03:26 PM

[up]If they watched the cutscenes then maybe, but fighting him as a boss as well would be better.

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#10267: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:03:57 PM

They can say whatever they want, but it wont make them not look like uninformed tools.

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#10268: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:13:27 PM

Are you gonna start that again?

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#10269: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:30:46 PM

Start what?

I think its pretty basic to not talk shit about something and act like an expert if all you did was watch cutscenes or whatever.

Defbye Since: Aug, 2010
#10270: Mar 24th 2013 at 2:20:40 PM

I suppose that it's sort of valid if you watch it... But it is a bit ironic that the first thing a lot of DmC defenders said was that you couldn't judge the reboot without playing the full game. When people who had watched a livestream/cutscenes/played the demo came up with complaints they were basically dismissed for not having played the game from start to finish. So the same should apply here I think.

Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#10271: Mar 25th 2013 at 5:04:01 AM

The thing is that Vergil isn't a forgettable character in DMC 3 just form what he does in the cutscenes.

Fairwood90 Since: Dec, 2011
#10272: Mar 25th 2013 at 8:02:19 AM

[up]

Classic Vergil clearly didnt talk enough about how he had a bigger dick and liked to murder pregnant demon whores.

Seriously Sessler, you get butthurt over the "bro's before hoe's" trophy in God of War Ascension but nothing about that at all in your review?

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#10273: Mar 25th 2013 at 8:42:00 AM

Because Vergil is a character in a game and trophies are outside of the game.

Fairwood90 Since: Dec, 2011
#10274: Mar 25th 2013 at 9:08:45 AM

[up]

And yet he listed it as a negative in the wrap-up, it apparently dragged the experience that down for him.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#10275: Mar 25th 2013 at 9:31:00 AM

Didn't he say the writing in Dm C was puerile in his review?


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