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kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#41251: Jan 29th 2015 at 2:56:27 PM

Friendly Purple Chipmunk?

Also yes, Thresh is a surprisingly fun champion. Those hooks are tough to land at first, though. Takes some learning. Really solid once you get the hang of him though.

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#41252: Jan 29th 2015 at 4:15:17 PM

That can only be Lulu or Kennen.

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kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#41253: Jan 29th 2015 at 4:19:54 PM

Pfah. Volibear could eat Lulu.

then again so can Veigar so I guess that doesn't prove much

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OrangeSpider Must Keep The Web Intact from Ursalia Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: On the prowl
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#41254: Jan 29th 2015 at 5:49:46 PM

Volibear would have to reach Lulu for that.

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QuestionMarc Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#41255: Jan 29th 2015 at 5:52:14 PM

I actually had a Veigar support recently.

I caught myself thinking it was actually one of the best support I've had in recent memory and the realization startled me.

But for some reason unconventional support never works for my teammates.

Blitzcrank is cool. Thresh is cool. Both of them duo'ing in botlane? Let's just say Thresh is not that great of an ADC.

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#41256: Jan 29th 2015 at 5:56:04 PM

He is when he gets off the ground. That Flay passive, man. Damage for days.

Anyways, Voli can just hide in a bush and rolling thunder into the enemy. Or just regular rolling thunder into the enemy because they don't know what to expect. then roar to scatter the minions and slow the enemy you've caught, slap them around for a bit, and chomp so your ADC has an easier kill.

I feel like I've made this post before. Have I made this post before?

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OrangeSpider Must Keep The Web Intact from Ursalia Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: On the prowl
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#41257: Jan 29th 2015 at 6:17:57 PM

Having played that matchup, I don't think things would be that easy for Voli.

If he tries to get close, he's pretty easily slowed with glitterlance.

Worst case scenario, if he does manage to get close, you can still whimsy him so he cannot use his flip, or your can whimsy the adc so he can retreat.

In the improbable event that Voli manages to get someone low, you can hugeify and shield them to deny the execute.

(I also feel like I have made this post before. Because I find this to be one of the most amusingly one-sided matchups of the game.)

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kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#41258: Jan 29th 2015 at 6:27:20 PM

Well it wouldn't be easy, no. I mean, Voli isn't supposed to be a support, he just happens to be kind of useful for the role.

In situation like that the question is less one of 'how do they counter one another'(Because yes, you're right, Lulu could handle Voli easily enough on paper) but how the players react to one another.

It's like that team that likes to pull out Hecarim Mid: Hec should pretty much always have a bad time mid, but when he comes out he does well because a lot of midlaners don't know how to deal with giant ghost horse bum-rushing you to death. The Voli thing would be similar: a Voli support would have to rely on the fact that the enemy probably doesn't know how to deal with it or would have the presence of mind to respond well. How well do they respond to each other? If Lulu slows to early, Voli can just back out and wait for a better opportunity. If she hugifies, that's her ult used to Voli's basic skills, unless he's using his Storm for more damage(In which case he can kinda just keep going). Plus, Voli's passive supports mad rushes regardless of circumstance.

I agree with you that between two good, prepared players it goes in Lulu's favour... but that kind of matchup may not, in fact, happen. Heck, I've had good success as Support Voli against a Thresh, who should be even more capable of shutting him down.

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#41259: Jan 30th 2015 at 9:19:05 AM

The one thing I saw work that I cannot help but wonder how the fuck it worked, was an Evelynn mid.

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Dopants Breathe. Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
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#41260: Jan 30th 2015 at 9:24:40 AM

It's easy. All in level 1, snowball from there.

HazzyHaz Slice and Dice Since: Oct, 2011
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#41261: Jan 30th 2015 at 9:28:46 AM

Are we talking post season 2 eve mid?

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#41262: Jan 30th 2015 at 9:32:46 AM

Yes. Post season 2 eve mid. I am not sure she can manage those levels of all in. idk. Just left me wondering how that guy pulled it off.

I was actually impressed.

edited 30th Jan '15 9:33:18 AM by Aszur

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Dopants Breathe. Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
Breathe.
#41263: Jan 30th 2015 at 9:56:39 AM

It's doable if you can catch somebody on their lonesome in the beginning. You're guaranteed to outdamage most people that aren't resourceless/spam ability champs. If you have enough space to chase them down you can get a quick kill. Then you go from there.

If not, farming at tower isn't too hard for her and one gank is enough to get the ball rolling.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#41264: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:00:41 AM

But evelynn is extra squishy. Just appearing out of the blue behind the guy would easily lure the attention of minions and the guy to you, so I can see it happen if the guy was poked somewhat but from 100 to 0?

I mean...maybe if she tried to kill the enemy jungler in some wily, boldsy move?

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HazzyHaz Slice and Dice Since: Oct, 2011
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#41265: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:04:39 AM

Who was she vs

maybe the guy got cocky and dove creeps

Dopants Breathe. Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
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#41266: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:05:20 AM

I can't count how many times I've been eve'd while jungling.

MrShine Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#41267: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:08:02 AM

Even though it would be a completely terrible idea and probably kill the game, they should massively buff Shaco just for 1 patch so the new players can learn what facing that was like.

EDIT: Or go back to the pants-shitting fear that was JUNGLE TWITCH

edited 30th Jan '15 10:10:44 AM by MrShine

Dopants Breathe. Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
Breathe.
#41268: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:11:11 AM

They should just revert to a random season one patch for a single day.

MrShine Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#41269: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:14:59 AM

Twisted Fate and Vayne perma-banned.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#41270: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:16:17 AM

That could have been it. It was some time ago, I do not remember, but it was still impressive. I wish I had more details. Regardless. Evelynn has a wide array of opportunities due to her stealth I have no doubt someone wily enough can get a great amount of benefit from them.

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MarpsDS Rather useless. from Somewhere. Probably a corner. Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Rather useless.
#41271: Jan 30th 2015 at 9:27:47 PM

Is it me, or does it feel like Syndra has very little burst early? Also, I had an Annie support who did nothing during laning phase and the enemy bot lane proceeded to get fed as hell.

No idea of what is going on.
MrShine Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#41272: Jan 30th 2015 at 9:40:32 PM

Are champs normally able to nuke people from 100 to 0 at every point in the game?

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#41273: Jan 30th 2015 at 9:50:03 PM

Hah, if that were the case I would never stop playing Rammus because of how easy that'd be.

No, wait, I know one. Le Blanc. Half of one's health can disappear in an instant fairly early on against her.

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MarpsDS Rather useless. from Somewhere. Probably a corner. Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Rather useless.
#41274: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:35:15 PM

By early i meant once you get level 6.

Because I feel like I can never kill someone i should be able to with Syndra at 6. It's more likely I just suck at this game.

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FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#41275: Jan 30th 2015 at 11:19:26 PM

I'm A Pervert not an Asshole!

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