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WorldTurtle2 Since: Jan, 2015
#15026: Jan 12th 2017 at 7:58:29 AM

[up] In that case Ash will probably get Pikanium Z or Pikashunium Z for the Electric Trial.

edited 12th Jan '17 7:58:48 AM by WorldTurtle2

precita Since: Jan, 2014
#15027: Jan 12th 2017 at 12:54:42 PM

This is like the fourth or fifth time Ash has beaten a Hariyama owned by a important trainer/Gym leader. Brawly's in Dewford Gym in Hoenn, then Tyson's in the Hoenn league, then Greta's in the Battle Frontier, and now this.

I don't recall if Ash ever battled a Hariyama in DP through XY though. Its pretty funny when you see Ash beat the same pokemon over and over.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#15028: Jan 12th 2017 at 1:54:04 PM

Eh, I don't know if I'd really see it as a pattern as you seem to if it hasn't happened for so long.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#15029: Jan 12th 2017 at 1:56:33 PM

it's not as omnipresent as every Rock Gym Leader using an Onix XD

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precita Since: Jan, 2014
#15030: Jan 12th 2017 at 2:12:48 PM

Not to mention Geodude. Brock, Roxanne and Roark all battled Ash with a Geodude.

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#15031: Jan 12th 2017 at 2:20:43 PM

True, but Grant got his Amaura swapped for Onix.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#15032: Jan 12th 2017 at 2:37:24 PM

So in Sun and Moon, the Z Crystals are essentially the badges then huh?

In fact, you could view them as being both badges and TM's in one package to some extent.

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precita Since: Jan, 2014
#15033: Jan 12th 2017 at 3:59:15 PM

It seem so. Its really the only way for the anime to show progression. They did the same thing in the Battle Frontier arc with the Frontier symbols, then of course with the Contests and the ribbons.

The anime's few signs of progression are the tokens Ash wins after defeating someone important. If they took that away, nobody would know what was going on.

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#15034: Jan 12th 2017 at 4:04:37 PM

[up][up] To be fair, they serve the same purpose in the games too.

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#15035: Jan 12th 2017 at 6:28:11 PM

The anime's few signs of progression are the tokens Ash wins after defeating someone important. If they took that away, then there'd be no counter argument to Ash always being ten.

Fixed.

On that note, remember that Sophocles' precursor at the observatory had a different element. Ash will probably get the Steelium Z from the observatory trial. Of course, the question now becomes how will he get the Fightinium Z? Or will he even need it?

edited 12th Jan '17 6:28:23 PM by DonaldthePotholer

precita Since: Jan, 2014
#15036: Jan 12th 2017 at 6:29:00 PM

Heh, Hala is technically also an Elite 4 in the games. Does that mean Ash beat an Elite 4 member for the first time in the anime? [lol]

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#15037: Jan 12th 2017 at 6:37:44 PM

One interesting bit about the episode that bee the battle with Hala, Kukui says to Ash that he can probably only use one Z-Move at his current power level (with Pikachu and Rowlet). Something to consider.

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#15038: Jan 12th 2017 at 6:47:42 PM

Oh god. Is Pokemon turning into Dragon Ball Z? Monster Ball Z?

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#15039: Jan 12th 2017 at 7:34:13 PM

[up]Fun Fact: Masaaki Iwane, a major Key animator for the Pokemon anime since the middle of the Kanto saga, was a key animator for a lot of Dragon Ball's best fight scenes in the anime. He's Key animated more episodes of this season of the show by himself then in any saga yet.

edited 12th Jan '17 7:35:55 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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precita Since: Jan, 2014
#15040: Jan 13th 2017 at 10:28:55 AM

Tomioka is also writing for Dragonball Super currently, he wrote the first 5 episodes of the Zamasu/Goku Black arc and many others recently.

Meanwhile Tomioka was one of the best pokemon writers and has been with the anime since episode 3 where Ash captures Caterpie. I wonder how he feels writing for Ash for 20 years and not being able to take him beyond the boundaries of the anime?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#15041: Jan 13th 2017 at 10:35:58 AM

I imagine he must be pretty frustrated.

Imagining writing a character for 20 years, and not being allowed to let them accomplish their one stated goal. It's pretty ridiculous.

I wonder how he felt about Shudo's originally planned grow up and get a real job ending for Ash?

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#15042: Jan 13th 2017 at 10:56:17 AM

I wonder how Shudo would've felt about the Eevium-Z subplot of Sun and Moon since it's right up that alley.

edited 13th Jan '17 10:56:34 AM by rmctagg09

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#15043: Jan 13th 2017 at 11:57:11 AM

"How is Pokeymans still a thing?" probably.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#15044: Jan 13th 2017 at 12:15:39 PM

This episode didn't make any sense, either!

Why would Ash take that bowl of dog food with a hungry puppy and pika waiting at his feet and struggle to walk as the critters jump around his feet, only to then put down the bowl in the middle of the room and just on the edge of the carpet! It's gonna be a royal pain to get the food stains out of that thing! Jesus Christ!

DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#15045: Jan 14th 2017 at 3:06:54 PM

"Middle of the Kanto Saga"? That's Iwane as an animation director. As a key animator, he's been working on Pokemon since episode 3!

Back then, Iwane worked at an anime support studio called Studio Cockpit. Those are studios that are called by bigger animation studios to help ease their workload, hence Toei and Dragonball Z. I'm guessing OLM hired the studio, realized that Iwane was a great asset and snatched him and his friends up to work for them in-house because once Pokemon started, Iwane's credits start to get less varied.

edited 14th Jan '17 3:20:13 PM by DS9guy

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#15046: Jan 17th 2017 at 10:05:18 AM

I like how everyone looks genuinely black except for the cute little sister character

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#15047: Jan 17th 2017 at 10:53:15 AM

To be fair, my sister's a little brown too compared to the rest of us.[lol]

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precita Since: Jan, 2014
#15048: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:04:36 AM

At least Kiawe is the first genuinely black main character. Iris had brown skin but she wasn't intended to be black, and Brock's skin was always slightly darker than the rest of the cast too.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#15049: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:21:37 PM

Iris had brown skin but she wasn't intended to be black
Do you have proof to back this up?

YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#15050: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:22:59 PM

Is Kiawe even supposed to be black? He seems like some sort of islander... person type. I mean, Pokemon's a fantasy world, why would anyone there have Earth ethnicities?


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